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  • donradick
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    Originally posted by fdieck View Post
    Did someone say small faces....

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=14ViwvgtvbA
    Priceless! Thanks!

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  • fdieck
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    Originally posted by Wolf View Post
    Well- the old TLabs that some say these are knockoffs of weren't exactly small faces either. You know what they say about a tweeter with a big faceplate? It should also have a big magnet.
    Examples:
    MDT33
    TLabs N26
    Motus
    TB 25-1743
    Fostex 33mm
    Audax 34mm
    Seas Exotic

    ...and now the Peerless, and likely others I didn't mention.

    Big magnet (and maybe big diaphragm/dome as well) just equals big faceplate. I guess the DA32 is over 5" deep. Yowza! That tweeter gotz junk in its trunk.

    Later,
    Wolf
    Did someone say small faces....

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=14ViwvgtvbA

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  • fdieck
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    A speaker already has the magnet. The screen just has to be steel.

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  • Squidspeak
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    Hey Doctor X, while reading thru the Peerless spec sheet they mentioned about the optional screen/cover for the dome. It is held in place with magnets? Have you or anyone else on the forum taken A/B measurements with the shield removed. With my limited knowledge I thought magnets next to the transducer may affect performance. Also glad you share your research on the forum, as I said months ago people will take you more seriously without the soft porn pictures.

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  • civit
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    It's amazing to watch the progress of the $50 tweeter.

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  • dcibel
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    Originally posted by humphreyblowdart View Post


    Found the album. It's a ring magnet, but even so, Wavecor uses an outside neo magnet in the TW022WA04 and its faceplate is less than half the diameter of the Motus. The premium 30 mm ferrite Wavecor models have oversized (115 mm) faceplates and magnets, as well.
    Yes, the Motus tweeter is a lightweight neo motor, with a heavily damped chamber. The motor is well designed, and the chamber and faceplate are easily removed, so sometime in the future I may play around with this Motus tweeter in waveguide and dipole configuration. I don't imagine the rear wave with the chamber and damping removed will be anything like the front wave, but I think it may do better than most domes in this operation.

    The faceplate is large only because of the big damped chamber, not because of the motor size. It's a neo tweeter.

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  • humphreyblowdart
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    Originally posted by Wolf View Post
    I somehow remembered the slug was bigger than that, oh well, and it was dcibel that had it, and yes on MAC.

    Later,
    Wolf
    Originally posted by Voice Coil, December 2012
    Other features include a damped (fiberglass instead of foam) vented and extended/undercut pole exhausting into a damped rear chamber (also fiberglass damped), a copper shorting ring in the gap area and a second alumi- num shorting ring mounted into the neodymium N48SH ring magnet. There are also eight vent holes beneath the tweeter surround to minimize back pressure applied to the surround.
    Found the album. It's a ring magnet, but even so, Wavecor uses an outside neo magnet in the TW022WA04 and its faceplate is less than half the diameter of the Motus. The premium 30 mm ferrite Wavecor models have oversized (115 mm) faceplates and magnets, as well.

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  • Wolf
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    I somehow remembered the slug was bigger than that, oh well, and it was dcibel that had it, and yes on MAC.

    Later,
    Wolf

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  • humphreyblowdart
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    Originally posted by Wolf View Post
    You know what they say about a tweeter with a big faceplate? It should also have a big magnet.

    Motus

    Big magnet (and maybe big diaphragm/dome as well) just equals big faceplate.
    I can't find a link (maybe it was somewhere on the MAC forum), but I remember seeing someone open up the Motus to find an inset neo motor and a bunch of stuffing—the big faceplate is cosmetic.

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  • scottvalentin
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    Wow that is very impressive indeed! Thanks for sharing those results!

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  • xmax
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    Click image for larger version  Name:	TL V P.jpg Views:	1 Size:	328.1 KB ID:	1377767 I ran some sweeps today of the DA25TX vs the TL N26MGR-A using the PE USB mic on a 19"X19" baffle
    @ about 105 dB level matched, from 700hz up also filtered actively @ 700hz. The peerless (green) does quite well
    against the TL!

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  • xmax
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    It's not better than a RAAL or something like that in the top end, but it's overall versatility and price to
    performance ratio is fantastic! Coming from somebody that sells speakers it's my new favorite.

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  • speekerbldr
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    I'm a fan of the Wavecor WA12 also. It measured flat to near 500hz on baffle, making the slope relatively easy to achieve. In my current system it does sound a smidge dark, but along with that comes a nice spaceous sound and lack of grit/grain, hardness etc.

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  • xmax
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    What Pete said exactly and they just sound great both in a studio type low level near field situation and
    in a set to 11 "main" (big *** studio monitor in the far field).

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Originally posted by donradick View Post

    Can I ask - why the love?
    Specifications / measurements or listening / detail / dynamic capabilities?
    I've been listening to them for a while myself. 

    Measurements are very good.  Distortion is very low, all the way down to 1KHz, so you can cross them lower than almost any other tweeter I've ever seen.  And being 30mm, they have quite a bit of grunt for plenty of dynamic capacity. 

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