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    I'm looking for a project that will fit my needs. First off, I'm using a 10watt tube amp. So I'll need somewhat sensitive speakers. My room is 19ft x 23ft with 10ft ceiling. I listen to a variety of music, from jazz to heavy metal. My setup is all from the 70s except the amp. My speakers are a little old and tired, and I figured there should be something better after 45yrs. I have a budget of $500. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

  • #2
    High sensitivity for your low power amplifier will tend to mean large cabinets and large cone areas. Is something like the Econowave 2 way speakers acceptable in size? A more domestically friendly package might be a 2.5 way tower using 4 midwoofers and a tweeter but that might push the budget a bit. Thoughts?

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    • #3
      If you are good with the size, you should check out the Asathor JBL clone project. Price is in your budget, and will work with your amp. It's along the lines of what Andy suggested. The parts sourcing may be an issue depending on where you live. Glenn.

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      • #4
        Uluwatu. 92 db sensitivity, 118 db max spl, $499 kit price, kit source linked in Curt's writeup.

        Articles on speaker building and design, as well as complete write ups on many different speaker designs. 7

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        • #5
          And just for you, I pulled my low watt tube stuff out to listen to the DIYSG S2000 MTMs. 91db sensitivity, handled Superfly funky bass just fine, got real loud. $300 pair at DIY sound group, actually in stock, a sign from above.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by djg View Post
            And just for you, I pulled my low watt tube stuff out to listen to the DIYSG S2000 MTMs. 91db sensitivity, handled Superfly funky bass just fine, got real loud. $300 pair at DIY sound group, actually in stock, a sign from above.
            They are 4 ohm, not sure if or how much of an issue that is if his amp doesn't have 4 ohm taps.

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            • djg
              djg commented
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              Yeah, my ST35 has 4 and 8 ohm taps, the original had 8 and 16 ohm taps, IIRC. 4 ohms ruins everything.

          • #7
            My amp doesn't have any taps, but it does say it can handle 4-8Ohms. I have tons of wood working tools so I don't need a flat pack or anything. Just a schematic and parts list.

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            • Geoff Millar
              Geoff Millar commented
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              The Uluwatu are rated at 6 ohms, according to Mr Campbell's web page (referenced above), so you should be fine there.

              Depending on where you purchase the parts, the SB13s may be the traditional round shape rather than the 'square-ish' drivers shown on Curt's web page: this is because SB has discontinued the old shape. This is good news as they will be much easier to flush mount.

              Geoff

            • djg
              djg commented
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              S2000s even cheaper without flat packs. It's a proprietary design and woofer. I would never turn my nose up to a precise CNC baffle.

          • #8
            The Uluwatu looks nice, but the speaker kit is $500. Not including plywood etc.

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            • Geoff Millar
              Geoff Millar commented
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              Also from Mr Campbell, you could look at his Slapshot MTMs: Morel CAT378 ($77 ea) and RS180P ($43 ea, on sale at the moment), simple XO and 91dB sensitivity. Great sound. Driver cost about $330, so leaves room for the cabinet and XO parts. Impedance is specified as 6 ohms.

          • #9
            Curt's Singularities might be worth a look. They should be very tube friendly. I have some speakers based on the PM220 that I like a lot. The PS220 adds a whizzer cone for brighter highs. They are a good example of a modern driver.

            Articles on speaker building and design, as well as complete write ups on many different speaker designs. 7

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            • djg
              djg commented
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              I had a pair of those, nice with the usual sweet spot. I'm not sure if they would handle heavy metal. They do have an impedance flattening circuit for tube amps. I guess if you only have 10 watts they are a choice. Pretty simple to build, a big (BIG) tower with a vent and stuffing, simple filter.

              I would have liked to hear them with my Amp Camp Amp(s), but they are gone.

          • #10
            Has anyone had experience with the Super Pensil 12p

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            • djg
              djg commented
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              The Mark Audio drivers are well reviewed. The Dayton PS220-8 as used in the Singularity design is about 5db more sensitive for $20 ea cheaper. The kit breakdown at KJF Audio does not show any filter components. May not need any. Some people think that's the best way. I'd go with Curt Campbell myself. That's the bias you'll see here, other forums have different cultures. I may have missed something in my ten minute research.


              Edit: The Mark Audio drivers have some rather stringent care instructions. See on the Madison, WI based speaker source.

              Last edited by djg; 03-04-2021, 01:44 PM.

          • #11
            12p pencils did not do well with my 300b amps. Sounded thin with little bass. Now using SB Acoustics Arya and they are very good with lots of bass and clear treble. Image nicely. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

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            • #12
              The Singularities look good. I'll have to look into them

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              • #13
                The Asathor might be a good choice. Anyone have any experience with one?

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                • djg
                  djg commented
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                  There is a thread at the DIYaudio forum, if you join you can view attachments, pics, graphs and such.
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