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  • #16
    Just give us the brand and model of the sound bar rather than a link. That will help determine if it has an acceptable output for the sub amp and not annoy our hosts with a link to a competing retailer.

    Chances are that line level booster will help, but there may be other options.
    Electronics engineer, woofer enthusiast, and musician.
    Wogg Music
    Published projects: PPA100 Bass Guitar Amp, ISO El-Cheapo Sub, Indy 8 2.1 powered sub, MicroSat, SuperNova Minimus

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    • #17
      Originally posted by billfitzmaurice View Post

      Which is it? The first piece of gear you need for a home theater install, other than a TV, is an AVR. If you don't have one that's the source of the problem.
      Posting links to other retailers is not allowed.
      Did you read my post where I stated my sound bar has a sub out? That is a line level output just like the sub out from an AVR.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by wogg View Post
        Just give us the brand and model of the sound bar rather than a link. That will help determine if it has an acceptable output for the sub amp and not annoy our hosts with a link to a competing retailer.

        Chances are that line level booster will help, but there may be other options.
        The sound bar is a Yamaha YAS-109...in case my link gets deleted again, the line driver I'm considering is the LGB-1 made by a company called Home Theater Direct. I tried to find a line driver from PE, but they don't sell them anymore...

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        • #19
          ART has several line driver combos that PEsells.
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          • #20
            There is also a Talent model.
            Wolf
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Wolf View Post
              ART has several line driver combos that PEsells.
              Wolf
              I was on a chat with a PE customer service person yesterday and the only unit he could recommend to me from PE was a Bellari PP532, which is only a passive unit, not a line driver. Do you have a link, or an item number for any of these devices?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by grampi50 View Post

                Did you read my post where I stated my sound bar has a sub out? That is a line level output just like the sub out from an AVR.
                It is not the same as the LFE/Sub output of an AVR. For one thing an AVR can adjust the outputs to all the speakers and the LEF/Sub output independently. Most AVRs also boost the LFE/Sub output by 10dB.That's why I asked if you have an AVR. I guess not.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by grampi50 View Post

                  I was on a chat with a PE customer service person yesterday and the only unit he could recommend to me from PE was a Bellari PP532, which is only a passive unit, not a line driver. Do you have a link, or an item number for any of these devices?
                  Type CleanBox in the zearch bar.
                  Wolf
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                  • #24
                    233-168 is the talent.
                    Wolf
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                    "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                    "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                    "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by billfitzmaurice View Post

                      It is not the same as the LFE/Sub output of an AVR. For one thing an AVR can adjust the outputs to all the speakers and the LEF/Sub output independently. Most AVRs also boost the LFE/Sub output by 10dB.That's why I asked if you have an AVR. I guess not.
                      This sound bar has a separate volume control for the sub. I don't know if it has any boost, I haven't been able to find out any info on that. I'm guessing it doesn't, which is probably why the signal is so low.

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                      • #26
                        Wolf, I think the cleanbox would work, and nothing comes up for the item #233-168. The LGB-1 is only $45, whereas the Cleanbox is $89...

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                        • #27


                          https://manual.yamaha.com/av/19/yas109/en-US/

                          https://usa.yamaha.com/support/manua...sual&k=yas-109

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                          • #28
                            I think the Talent might be discontinued. Sorry.

                            The other extreme is the Radial J+4 as a line driver, but about 3x the cost of the ART.
                            Wolf
                            "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                            "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                            "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                            "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                            *InDIYana event website*

                            Photobucket pages:
                            https://app.photobucket.com/u/wolf_teeth_speaker

                            My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
                            http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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                            • #29
                              I've seen those...

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                              • djg
                                djg commented
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                                I posted that info for people trying to help you. Like Wogg.

                            • #30
                              Originally posted by grampi50 View Post
                              The sound bar is a Yamaha YAS-109...in case my link gets deleted again, the line driver I'm considering is the LGB-1 made by a company called Home Theater Direct. I tried to find a line driver from PE, but they don't sell them anymore...
                              I checked out the manual, pretty simple. I'm sure you've messed with the subwoofer volume control on the remote as well as the master volume. The single RCA output should go the the left input, a Y adapter to connect to both R and L on the sub side. will boost level by 6dB to the sub.

                              If that's too quiet still the line level booster you found will help.
                              Electronics engineer, woofer enthusiast, and musician.
                              Wogg Music
                              Published projects: PPA100 Bass Guitar Amp, ISO El-Cheapo Sub, Indy 8 2.1 powered sub, MicroSat, SuperNova Minimus

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