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  • #46
    Originally posted by Shonver View Post
    Thank you, George. I would recommend considering implementing a G-code option, as that would open up other options to the DIYer community due to the myriad of CNC-based accessories available these days.
    I am not familiar with G-code. As a matter of fact, I did not do any coding, and Bohdan basically sent the command codes in the ASCII format. So he just modified some of his existing RS233 code to get it working. I just figured out how to use off-the-shelf parts as much as possible to get things working. We did look at the ARTA design, but felt we could not figure out what kind of commands they used and how complicated the coding would be. So we used our own design approach.
    Last edited by soongsc; 06-25-2022, 01:37 AM.

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    • #47
      I browsed through the G code set, it seems like an added layer of coding to decouple the machine from the application. However, it is designed for the complexity of CNC manufacturing. So the commands are not so direct. I am wondering whether such complexity is necessary in just turning a table incrementally. Do they actually transmit the ASCII code?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Shonver View Post
        bohdan will you make the RS232 communications specification available, or are you making it exclusive for Soong's turntable?
        Hi Shonver,

        A number of ASCII commands are sent via RS232 link. The commands are specific for Cool Muscle motor. Some of the commands control motor state and settings, and other commands control motor movements. As you can imagine, the whole thing gets a bit complex, because the program controls everything: the MLS measurements, turntable movements and all post-processing of collected data.

        George is planning to create dual-axis turntable device, and this would make things even more complex. This would allow to conduct balloon-style measurements, but the amount of data would be very large.
        Anyway, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

        I hope I answered your question.

        Best Regards,
        Bohdan

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        • #49
          Just getting the final touches to the single axis rig. Should be finished by Tuesday. After posting the final version (minus a built in adjustable support), the second axis and fixtures start to go on. This is going to be a challenging part. Kind of figuring things out as we go along.

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          • #50
            Here is the final design of the single axis rig. Notice a few things:
            1. Added knobs for convenient adjustment.
            2. Expanded base with roller ball feet for convenient moving around. (The whole unit is about 19Kg)
            3. Wires pulling the expansion legs. This prevents the legs from moving around too much.

            The PVC cap at the center of the table is not included, as it is for a different purpose which I will show in a later post.
            Last edited by soongsc; 06-28-2022, 08:12 AM.

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            • #51
              Some detail on the top.

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              The yellow circled parts will be changed to thinner stainless steel parts with countersunk bolts.
              Also note the silicon strips used to prevent slipping of speaker.

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              • #52
                Here is another possible application where we are inserting a mic into the ear, and measure the response at the canal entry to simulate where an earbud sound source will be. Using a flat frequency response speaker, we can see how the head and ear may effect the response, and so when calibrating earbud response we can accomplish a more accurate presentation of sound.

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                • #53
                  With this post, we are looking at a major change in the single and dual axis rig. The base expansion has been taken out replaced is a caster wheel design. This change is because we discovered readily available wheelchair caster wheels could fit the purpose quite nicely, simplified the design, while also keeping the total cost about the same. Below is our new single axis rig design with adjustable support.

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                  • #54
                    Just started using v28 and ran into an issue. When I click "show mic cal" it only showed the phase, no SPL. Then when I opened an IR for a woofer, and plotted it, again no SPL response. I adjusted the reference from 90 to 0, and found the SPL plotted there (see attached). I assume the mic cal response is now "hiding" somewhere but I couldn't find it. Any reason SE is behaving this way now? Also, is possible to toggle the plot descriptions? I like that they were added, but they really clog up the whole screen when you have a number of plots on it.

                    ~Brandon
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                    • #55
                      Also, every time I click the "post process" tab, then click back to "MLS", my window width has dropped by one????????
                      ~Brandon
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                      • #56
                        Hi,

                        If its all the same to you, I would suggest to move your issue to the new SoundEasy User's group https://groups.io/g/Soundeasy


                        V28 has significantly increased driver file size due to the ANSI measurements. So, I need to see your driver, mike cal and IR data files.
                        Could you please email those to my email [email protected]

                        Best Regards,
                        Bohdan

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                        • #57
                          Will do, thanks Bohdan
                          ~Brandon
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by augerpro View Post
                            Just started using v28 and ran into an issue. When I click "show mic cal" it only showed the phase, no SPL. Then when I opened an IR for a woofer, and plotted it, again no SPL response. I adjusted the reference from 90 to 0, and found the SPL plotted there (see attached). I assume the mic cal response is now "hiding" somewhere but I couldn't find it. Any reason SE is behaving this way now? Also, is possible to toggle the plot descriptions? I like that they were added, but they really clog up the whole screen when you have a number of plots on it.

                            Remember that Soundeasy uses 90dB as it’s reference, which is different from all other software. A calibration file with 0dB reference needs to be processed through SE to adjust it to a 90dB reference using the import and export tools.
                            I'm not deaf, I'm just not listening!

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                            • #59
                              Mic cal file was processed at 90 in a previous version of SE. I didn't change anything from previous versions, just transferred the cal file over to v28 folder and loaded it. I did take the measurement IR with v23, and I'm wondering if that is the issue. Maybe with v28 new data in the file, it needs to be captured by v28? Do you have v28 and an older version with IR files you captured with that older version? How does your v28 behave?
                              ~Brandon
                              Please donate to my Waveguides for CNC and 3D Printing Project!!
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                              • #60
                                Think I figured it out. Found the mic response to be at 180dB (attached). It's like v28 added another 90dB on top of the original 90 dB level of the cal file. This would of course push anything measured down 90dB - to near 0. Which is where my measured DUT response is.
                                Attached Files
                                ~Brandon
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