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    Open Back 3-way with coaxial midrange/tweeter. This is speaking to my want to build a pair of open back mid speakers for years (think statements, finalist, bordeaux, etc) coupled with coaxial alignment that I assume is part of the enjoyment I have with Kefs.

    Anyone familiar with the CX150 have thoughts on this kit?

  • #2
    Looks like a solid value kit. I would maybe pad the tweeter down just another dB, as the response rises from the midrange band a touch.

    When I heard the CX150 prior, and it's shelf life was short lived for whatever the reason but now it's back, it really was not a bad driver. Smooth sounding poly midrange and integral tweeter did well together.

    I think the DCS205 is likely the best budget woofer tor this kit, as the performance and sensitivity seem to work well with the CX150. Were it not for that, the GRS 8SW HE would have had my vote.

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    • #3
      Some cool ideas going on with that speaker. Hope I get to hear it.

      I do wish he had chosen another name.
      Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

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      • #4
        Siegfied grabs his tie and says "I don't get no respect!!" a la Rodney....

        excuse me..."respeck!!"
        Last edited by davidB; 12-27-2022, 02:17 PM.


        • #5
          It has a very interesting set of features, not often do I see an open baffle coaxial. The low woofer looks a little rough to me, curious if dampening in the cabinet can alleviate some of the wiggles in the mid bass. I do wish they could start providing off axis data on the kits as well, on axis just doesn't tell me enough about a speaker to want to invest.


          • #6
            Very detailed instructions, and a very complete kit.


            • #7
              Definitely a nice alternative from the TM two-way standard.
              Coaxial and open-back mid is unique for a kit, nice looking way to do the open-back mid taking advantage of CNC rather than standard PVC pipe or a simple square.
              F3 of 37Hz is pretty impressive for a kit. The Solstice is 30Hz and more than twice as much.

              I think a large majority of posters here at PETT don't build kits, they either design their own or build others' designs by simply buying the parts. Thinking about the audience that buys and builds kits, this is a pretty unique alternative. Of course, what none of us know yet is how good it sounds and it is unlikely to be demo'd at a DIY event. It will be interesting to see once some reviews roll in, but those are hard to interpret given a lot of builder's-bias.


              • #8
                Thank you all for the insight. I think I'm going to give these a try in the future. I would Right now if I didn't have a move coming up. Hoping there will be a few builds for review very soon.


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Paul Carmody View Post
                  Some cool ideas going on with that speaker. Hope I get to hear it.

                  I do wish he had chosen another name.
                  I do like to build kits from time to time but this speaker doesn't really do anything for me personally, too odd, and ugly combination of drivers but that name... First its already spoken for in the lineage of speaker kit, and second its really not going to do PE any favors for anyone trying to look this thing up.


                  • #10
                    Kinda like Ron E.'s original C-Notes project that was awesome followed by the PE "C-Notes" that weren't so much... Same PE designer I presume.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PWR RYD View Post
                      Kinda like Ron E.'s original C-Notes project that was awesome followed by the PE "C-Notes" that weren't so much... Same PE designer I presume.
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                      • #12
                        If the designers at PE can't come up with their own names for projects, maybe they should look for another job...There is no excuse for laziness or disrespect


                        • #13
                          Subomidiax! Subwoofer, open mid, coax. Easy peasy. Could the PE "eyes", perhaps post the measurements from the design stages? I don't think that's too much of an ask if they want people to drop close to a grand, depending on the total build, especially if the ad print is touting its usage as a studio monitor. Might make more individuals want to drop their hard earned money. Happy New Year, everyone! Glenn.


                          • #14
                            They should rename the speaker kit. It's clear the name was chosen to trick buyers into thinking the design is somehow related to the original design. . The title of this thread doesn't help either.

                            edit.... Removed comment questioning the measurements.
                            Last edited by rpb; 01-05-2023, 11:15 AM.


                            • #15
                              Kit builders generally don't measure. I'm speaking from personal experience, so YMMV. So it makes we wonder if these kits serve...uh, some purpose.