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**Billet** · 01-07-2023, 10:21 AM

Staying with a more vintage Americana theme, I would use a small paper cone guitar speaker in mono or stereo. I have a pair of Eminence 820H and they sound really good. They are very efficient and draw minimal power and don't need a crossover. You could build a small thin baffle, open or closed, and mount the speakers towards the rear of the main compartment.

For these speakers, it is very important to keep the maximum amplifier power within the power rating of the speaker. A small and simple low powered amp such as the Dayton DA30 would be a good fit.

Possible options (depending on stock and your time frame):

A single Eminence Copperhead or 1058 10" driver with a Dayton DA30 amplifier bridged to mono.
A pair of Eminence 820H drivers with a Dayton DA30 or DTA-1 amplifier in stereo.

**ameuba10** · 01-09-2023, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Chris Roemer View Post

dj - no electronics ...

Does that thing have a platter motor - or a crank! ?

Crank!

**ameuba10** · 01-09-2023, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by Billet View Post

Staying with a more vintage Americana theme, I would use a small paper cone guitar speaker in mono or stereo. I have a pair of Eminence 820H and they sound really good. They are very efficient and draw minimal power and don't need a crossover. You could build a small thin baffle, open or closed, and mount the speakers towards the rear of the main compartment.

For these speakers, it is very important to keep the maximum amplifier power within the power rating of the speaker. A small and simple low powered amp such as the Dayton DA30 would be a good fit.

Possible options (depending on stock and your time frame):

A single Eminence Copperhead or 1058 10" driver with a Dayton DA30 amplifier bridged to mono.
A pair of Eminence 820H drivers with a Dayton DA30 or DTA-1 amplifier in stereo.

Thanks for the input. The 820H may be the simplest to use. It looks like all would need a tweeter or horn for HF duties though. They all seem to dip pretty heavily by 5khz. I have done another console retrofits similar to this one using Dayton PA225 and Selenium D220Ti using a Dayton 2K prefab X-over. The Horn had an L-pad. I know a prefab X-over is not ideal, but it got the job done. I may look into something similar for this one.

**ameuba10** · 01-09-2023, 08:07 AM

How do these parts seem to pair up? If I go this route, it will obviously be mono. Still not opposed to something else in stereo, like the Isetta or Overnight Sensations.

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Eminence Beta-12CX 12" Coaxial DriverThe Eminence Beta-12CX 12" Coaxial Driver is recommended for professional audio midrange reproduction in sealed loudspeaker enclosures. Also suitable for midbass or floor monitor applications in vented 2-way speaker cabinets. The Beta-12CX's coaxial design facilitates use of an HF driver to extend frequency response. Standard 1-3/8"-18 TPI threaded insert for HF horn driver (sold separately). Made in the USA. 7-year manufacturer's warranty!Featured in Eminence's "Using coaxial products for DIY monitors and home hi-fi applications" article.

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Selenium D220Ti 1" Titanium Horn Driver 8 Ohm 1-3/8"-18The Selenium D220Ti-8 horn driver's diaphragm is formed from pure, rigid, light, and extremely thin titanium (0.025 mm). To avoid stress and distortion, the suspension has specially designed reinforcement. An injected-molded phase plug is optimized to eliminate undesirable phase cancellations.The D220Ti-8's ceramic magnetic assembly effectively concentrates flux in the gap, and highest motor strength efficiency is achieved through the use of FEA (Finite Element Analysis). A voice coil manufactured in CCAW (Copper Clad Aluminum Wire) and wound on a polyimide former assures great stability and thermal resistance, and the moving assembly has a perfect auto-centering characteristic that makes replacement easy if required. Standard 1-3/8"-18 TPI screw-on mounting.Specifications: • Power handling: 80 watts RMS/160 watts program (with recommended 2,000 Hz, 12 dB/octave crossover) • VCdia: 1.7" • Throat diameter: 1" • Impedance: 8 ohms • Frequency response: 1,000-21,000 Hz (no crossover) • SPL: 109 dB 2.83V/1m • Magnet weight: 24 oz. • Dimensions: Overall diameter: 4.53", Depth: 2", 2.75" including threaded "nose".

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Dayton Audio 2k-HPF-8 High Pass Speaker Crossover 2,000 Hz 12 dB/OctaveDayton Audio's premium inline passive filters make it easy to limit a driver's frequency response to a specific desired bandwidth. By using combinations of these filters you can create complete 2-way or 3-way crossovers. The components used in each of these are the same high quality you have come to expect from Dayton Audio.This 12dB/octave 2,000 Hz high pass filter can be combined with our 2,000 Hz low pass for a 2nd order Linkwitz-Riley crossover, which sums for flat transfer function across the crossover frequency. In addition, you can stagger or overlap filter frequencies to overcome peaks and dips in individual drivers' frequency response to create crossovers that acoustically sum flat across the crossover point. Mounts to our 5" X 7" blank terminal plate (part # 260-110)Specifications:Type: High Pass Filter Frequency: 2,000 Hz Impedance: 8 ohms Dimension: 3.93" x 2.36" (100 mm x 60 mm) Power handling: 250 watts Series capacitor value: 5 µF Parallel inductor value: 1.27 mH

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Dayton Audio 2k-LPF-8 Low Pass Speaker Crossover 2,000 Hz 12 dB/OctaveDayton Audio's premium inline passive filters make it easy to limit a driver's frequency response to a specific desired bandwidth. By using combinations of these filters you can create complete 2-way or 3-way crossovers. The components used in each of these are the same high quality you have come to expect from Dayton Audio.This 12dB/octave 2,000 Hz low pass filter can be combined with our 2,000 Hz high pass for a 2nd order Linkwitz-Riley crossover, which sums for flat transfer function across the crossover frequency. In addition, you can stagger or overlap filter frequencies to overcome peaks and dips in individual drivers' frequency response to create crossovers that acoustically sum flat across the crossover point. Mounts to our 5" X 7" blank terminal plate (part # 260-110). Specifications:Type: Low Pass Filter Frequency: 2,000 Hz Impedance: 8 ohms Dimension: 3.93" x 2.36" (100 mm x 60 mm) Power handling: 250 watts Series inductor value: 1.27 mH Parallel capacitor value: 5 µF

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Speaker L-Pad Attenuator 100W Mono 1" Shaft 8 OhmL-pads adjust the relative volume of drivers connected to them by placing added resistance in series. At the same time, a counter-resistance is placed in parallel with the driver to maintain a constant impedance which allows the original crossover design to be used. L-pads are to be placed in between the amplifier and speaker, or in between the crossover and driver. This particular L-pad is rated at 100 watts RMS, is designed to be used with 8 ohm loads, features a 1" shaft length, and comes with mounting hardware and faceplate.Dimensions: 2-1/2" diameter, 1" depth. Note: See the Tech Drawings tab for wiring instructions.L-Pad Instruction Diagram

**DrewsBrews** · 01-11-2023, 02:04 PM

Not that I want to derail things.. But another option to consider..

For tunes in my kitchen I took my old computer 2.1 speaker system (Logitech Z3), and hooked it up to a Logitech bluetooth dongle. The volume knob is on a separate wired controller so I can have the speakers up on top of the fridge and still have the bluetooth sync button and volume control down on the counter. Gets plenty loud enough for me before it starts to sound strained in my 15'x13' kitchen. Though I don't listen at party levels.

Something like that might work as a minimal-modification retrofit to throw down in the bottom compartment, covered by a tight fitting frame with vintage looking speaker cloth.

I wouldn't be surprised if you can find reasonable performing pc speakers cheap/free on the classified ad sites.

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