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Hey everyone,
I'm working on a new design for a friend. I'm constrained by a price point. It's a 3way, and the mid has a nice smooth upper end, capable of going higher. I'm more concerned with dispersion/radiation pattern than only targeting a flat FR on axis, so I would prefer to cross over as low as I can (ultimately going to be driven by XO design). These will be used in a large family/great room, so would like to have stronger wide dispersion and a more even power response. While there are number of cheap tweeters that could work with this mid at 4kHz, I'm hoping for better off-axis performance and blending.
I understand that without an measurements or XO design made, cost of the XO could vary greatly and offset the $30 limit. To avoid debate, let's just say the $30 cost cap on the tweeter is an arbitrary one - it is what it is. For the sake of this discussion, the woofer and mid are selected. And the Reference Series tweeters are priced out.
I've used the original D28F silkie before, and found it quite pleasing for the price. The DC28F looks great on paper.
I'm struggling a bit to differentiate between the smaller Dayton neo variants (aside from their obvious physical differences)... DSN25F, NHP25F, ND25FW, ND25FA
I see the DSN25F has some copper in the motor, with a slightly lower inductance. I assume/hope also lower THD. I tried searching for THD comparisons, but didn't find any. Would be interested if someone has a link. With the higher Fs on these at 1300-1500, I'm concerned trying to hit 2500 or lower XO.
The DSN25F ("better" motor?) and ND25FA seem to be the best options.
The off-axis on the DC28F extends a stronger than the Dayton neos, despite it's larger dome. And the lower Fs certainly helps to be able to use a lower XO point without stress.
The Peerless / Vifa DX25BG currently on sale is a strong contender, in my view. I've used and have been impressed with the non-chambered version
The SB26ST-C000-5 was a recent find that is quite intriguing. I've used it's neo variant with copper cap (SB26STCN) with some success. On paper, it also looks impressive.
I've heard some of the neo Daytons at various DIY events, and have the general impression <shrug/humph, that's not bad for the price>, but haven't heard one in my room on my system.
I've considered the XT25, but prefer the FR and off-axis of the DX25.
I do not like the sound/timbre of the BC25s, not sure why, so they're out
I have some historic good experience with the old Vifa D27TG35, but I like the sound of DX25 better
I'm a fan of the sonic character and performance of the Vifa D26NC series, but can't seem to find them anywhere stateside
If anyone else has another UNDER $30 option to recommend for my application and preferences above, feel free to shoot a suggestion and if you have any explanation of why you like one over another.
Thanks in advance!
I'm working on a new design for a friend. I'm constrained by a price point. It's a 3way, and the mid has a nice smooth upper end, capable of going higher. I'm more concerned with dispersion/radiation pattern than only targeting a flat FR on axis, so I would prefer to cross over as low as I can (ultimately going to be driven by XO design). These will be used in a large family/great room, so would like to have stronger wide dispersion and a more even power response. While there are number of cheap tweeters that could work with this mid at 4kHz, I'm hoping for better off-axis performance and blending.
I understand that without an measurements or XO design made, cost of the XO could vary greatly and offset the $30 limit. To avoid debate, let's just say the $30 cost cap on the tweeter is an arbitrary one - it is what it is. For the sake of this discussion, the woofer and mid are selected. And the Reference Series tweeters are priced out.
I've used the original D28F silkie before, and found it quite pleasing for the price. The DC28F looks great on paper.
I'm struggling a bit to differentiate between the smaller Dayton neo variants (aside from their obvious physical differences)... DSN25F, NHP25F, ND25FW, ND25FA
I see the DSN25F has some copper in the motor, with a slightly lower inductance. I assume/hope also lower THD. I tried searching for THD comparisons, but didn't find any. Would be interested if someone has a link. With the higher Fs on these at 1300-1500, I'm concerned trying to hit 2500 or lower XO.
The DSN25F ("better" motor?) and ND25FA seem to be the best options.
The off-axis on the DC28F extends a stronger than the Dayton neos, despite it's larger dome. And the lower Fs certainly helps to be able to use a lower XO point without stress.
The Peerless / Vifa DX25BG currently on sale is a strong contender, in my view. I've used and have been impressed with the non-chambered version
The SB26ST-C000-5 was a recent find that is quite intriguing. I've used it's neo variant with copper cap (SB26STCN) with some success. On paper, it also looks impressive.
I've heard some of the neo Daytons at various DIY events, and have the general impression <shrug/humph, that's not bad for the price>, but haven't heard one in my room on my system.
I've considered the XT25, but prefer the FR and off-axis of the DX25.
I do not like the sound/timbre of the BC25s, not sure why, so they're out
I have some historic good experience with the old Vifa D27TG35, but I like the sound of DX25 better
I'm a fan of the sonic character and performance of the Vifa D26NC series, but can't seem to find them anywhere stateside
If anyone else has another UNDER $30 option to recommend for my application and preferences above, feel free to shoot a suggestion and if you have any explanation of why you like one over another.
Thanks in advance!
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