15" of pure pleasure

[Green Machine Mowing]

time for a new sub, i want a sealed 15, unless you can talk me into something else. orginaly i was thinking a rythmik audio 15" set up but thats $500 now i am thinking the dayton 240 watt amp(currently on sale for $109 i think) and

the titanic mk III

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-420

or

one of the dayton 15" refrence series what do you guys think???

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-469

[Guest]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

IMHO, Qts of .4-.5 would be better for sealed.
Tight punchy bass would mate better with that 3way of yours, also.

GC

[Green Machine Mowing]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

the titanic, which i am leaning towards, has a qts of .38 which isnt a deal breaker, i prefer tight and punchy, which is why i want to go sealed, and it will keep the box from having to be to outragously big.

does anyone know when the sub and amp will go off sale, and loose their free shipping??

[nick29498141]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

3 posts into the thread and still no crude humor? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO US?! :p

[Green Machine Mowing]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

what could possably be construed as rude??:p

[AJ]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

Since you asked for it Nick...

At first i thought you were making a cheap porno.

[blktre]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

I just went thru the same decision making between the RSS390HF and the Titanic MKIII. I went w/the RSS390HF to be used in a 4-4.5 sealed box and use a Feedback Destroyer to EQ the lower octaves. All my research and advice from some well respected posters here led me to the decision that the RSS390HF will give me what I'm looking for and be more versatile and get the job done nicely. I'm going to use the EP2500 to power up so if i felt another sealed box was needed, I would have the expandability to do it.

Btw, the RSS390HF in my WinISD modeling beat up the Titanic in the size and sealed box you are wanting to build. Fwiw....If interested, I will post the plots....

[Todd G.]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

I would look at the RSS drivers. Other than the original, I've never been a fan of the Titanic line. They have always seems to be "one note" woofers to me. If the RSS HO requires too large of a box, you could do an ESP kit (http://sound.westhost.com/project48.htm), or duplicate the process with a FBD. I use the FBD method with my two JBL subs and they are exceptional.

[philiparcario]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

the titanic, which i am leaning towards, has a qts of .38 which isnt a deal breaker, i prefer tight and punchy, which is why i want to go sealed, and it will keep the box from having to be to outragously big.

does anyone know when the sub and amp will go off sale, and loose their free shipping??

why not this combo

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-190

138 dollars with free shipping

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/50-4630

186 dollars spend another 14 and shipping is free, since shipping is 15 buy some hook up wire like this

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/DT50FSW

total is 202 with free shipping. I not a big fan of the titanic series. I know the dvc will sound better for music. the amp is far better then the sa240. this is a good enough x over

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=248-664

still about 400 total cost with more versatility for sound shaping.

[johnastockman]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

time for a new sub, i want a seald 15, unless you can talk me into something else. orginaly i was thinking a rythmik audio 15" set up but thats $500 now i am thinking the dayton 240 watt amp(currently on sale for $109 i think) and

the titanic mk III

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-420

or

one of the dayton 15" refrence series what do you guys think???

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=295-469

The Titanic is good for HT, but definitely not as musical as the RSS series. Yet the RSS does HT low bass very well. RSS over the Titanic. The RSS390 can handle 500 watts, so you could go with a higher powered amp. Oaudio has some nice ones...there's the Bash, and the Keiga's at Madisound. I finished a sub a few months back using the RSS315HF-4 12" driver with the HPSA 500 watt amp in 2.5 ft3, sealed. It's a stunner and the parametric EQ is very effective with room nodes and location-specific "boom". I think the free shipping for certain items is through the holiday season, or when the newest flier expires. Don't quote me...

Yup, the RSS would be an excellent choice. There's also the venerable Quatro series with the 240 watt amp...Quatro 12", 240 watts, in about 3 ft3 sealed is pretty impressive. Built a few of those. The RSS and Quatro respond well to vented enclosures, also.

John A.

[scholl]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

Not being a one one parameter kind of guy but...there is a lot to be said for low Le and shorting rings. Also, there's a move a foot to move away from one big subwoofer to four subs, one in each corner or one along each wall.

However, it's hard to think that a Dayton RSS390 in a big box would sound bad with any main speaker in any room. The brute force should be devistating.

[Green Machine Mowing]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

I just went thru the same decision making between the RSS390HF and the Titanic MKIII. I went w/the RSS390HF to be used in a 4-4.5 sealed box and use a Feedback Destroyer to EQ the lower octaves. All my research and advice from some well respected posters here led me to the decision that the RSS390HF will give me what I'm looking for and be more versatile and get the job done nicely. I'm going to use the EP2500 to power up so if i felt another sealed box was needed, I would have the expandability to do it.

Btw, the RSS390HF in my WinISD modeling beat up the Titanic in the size and sealed box you are wanting to build. Fwiw....If interested, I will post the plots....

if you could post the plots, that would be great!!

ok you talked me into the rss line, now do i want the hf or ho? and what about a plate amp? im still thinking the 240 watt dayton, are there better values/deals on other sites?

[blktre]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

if you could post the plots, that would be great!!

ok you talked me into the rss line, now do i want the hf or ho? and what about a plate amp? im still thinking the 240 watt dayton, are there better values/deals on other sites?

Guess i shouldnt of said walked on. But for performance in the size of sealed box your looking at the RSS390HF does very well compared.

The yellow line is the RSS390HF in a 4.0^3 sealed box w/a Qtc of 0.77.
The green line is the Titanic MKIII in a 4.5^3 sealed box w/a Qtc of 0.68.

The RSS390HF goes as deep in a smaller box and doesn't roll off as soon so it should play louder.



I messed with different box sizes and this size of sealed boxes for both drivers is the best i could come up with, including Q. A larger vented box for the MKIII would dig alot deeper, but this driver from all accounts isn't going to give you that tight, punchy sound your looking for. If you cant do the EP2500 and FDP, I suggest the OAudio 500w plate amp, which is my second choice and easily first choice when it comes to price. With the size of box you want, id think a 500w amp would work best imo...Altho, the amp that Phillip posted is an awesome price for what you get for sure, just not enuff watts for me.

http://www.diycable.com/main/product_info.php?products_id=675

EDIT: The RSS HO will need alot larger box to get the same performance as the HF in a smaller box.

[Green Machine Mowing]

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thanks for that in depth post blktre. 3 feet sealed, seems kind of big, but probly goes lower likewise.

whats the advantage to the 500 watt amp other then the extra controls? its twice the power, but dosent that just put at +3 dB? not worth the extra money. i was consitering making a (perhaps tube) pre amp, tone control box, gain ajuster to set on my reciver, for control at my finger tips, any ideas on that? plans? maybe a link to an amp building forum??

[Green Machine Mowing]

Re: 15" of pure pleasure

I would look at the RSS drivers. Other than the original, I've never been a fan of the Titanic line. They have always seems to be "one note" woofers to me. If the RSS HO requires too large of a box, you could do an ESP kit (http://sound.westhost.com/project48.htm), or duplicate the process with a FBD. I use the FBD method with my two JBL subs and they are exceptional.

todd what does that thing do exactly? ive read bits and peices of the article and cant figure out what it does that could potentialy be a part of the sub control box that i was talking about making