12" coaxial on sale

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Anyone checked out the 12" coaxial on sale?

The details state, "Listed below is a plan to build a dedicated 24 dB/octave 1,800 Hz passive crossover" .. however the suggested crossover spec seems to be missing.

Looks like they might make a good little monitor.

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FYI, these are a B&C OEM driver. I bought a few. ;)

12cxt?

I checked the b&c catalog. Enough info to work with. They definitely have some better 12" coax drivers, but it's workable.

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No, I couldn't find the model number to match any of their stock items. But the drivers' construction matches other B&C speakers and diaphragms. Given PE's relationship with B&C and some proprietary information that I can't talk about (heh), I have 100% confidence that these are indeed OEM B&C speakers.

We are addressing the missing crossover issue, hopefully that will be fixed soon.

Both the sound quality and construction make this a very desirable driver, however these were not constructed by B&C (for OEM purposes or otherwise).

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No, I couldn't find the model number to match any of their stock items. But the drivers' construction matches other B&C speakers and diaphragms. Given PE's relationship with B&C and some proprietary information that I can't talk about (heh), I have 100% confidence that these are indeed OEM B&C speakers.

I looked again and they don't look identical (woofer frame the same, but that doesn't mean much.. and the CD looks different).

PE:


b&c cxt:

[jcapodieci]

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The specs and picture look too good to be true. I wonder how good they sound?

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Of course it's not the same. Could I not be any more clear?

I was just clarifying I didn't look very closely the first time when I thought it was the cxt. I had been looking at the B&C catalog last week and swore I saw one that looked like that (after you mentioned b&c.. I wouldn't have remebered otherwise).

However, if you open up the CD driver, it shares the diaphragm of a B&C driver. So the case is a bit different. The construction methods of the woofer are clearly B&C - or a ridiculously good clone of them. The back plate is threaded, presumably to mount components for its intended commercial speaker design.

The one time I state 100% confidence, I get a redirect and rebuff. Christ.

Then who, prey tell, is the manufacturer?

Wonder if MikeV will/can say.

Not constructed by b&c doesn't say much (doesn't mean they aren't the same motor structure). Do they even construct drivers, or do they just design them and have them produced in China or Taiwan?

[Todd G.]

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I just need to stay off this board as I just tend to **** people off. PE really loves to clamp down on my posts anymore. :(

Huh? The only reason I was reading this thread was because you posted here and I don't see a lot of your posts anymore. Since when have you p'iss'ed anybody off? I think you're just looking for an excuse to retreat to your new NASA spec workshop and hibernate for the winter.

[Mark H]

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I came across this while looking for the B&C Model XO-2 crossover for the 12CXT.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/21...l_speaker.html



Could this be who manufactured the speaker I wonder?

[Angaria]

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FYI, these are a B&C OEM driver. I bought a few. ;)

Any comments on perceived sound quality? What are you using as a XO? Thanks.

[Robbyho]

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Any comments on perceived sound quality? What are you using as a XO? Thanks.

x2. The recommended xover is fairly complex and expensive. .

[augerpro]

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I'll have full measurements of these in a few weeks, with and without cone treatment (I'm assuming it will need it).

[nick29498141]

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I came across this while looking for the B&C Model XO-2 crossover for the 12CXT.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/21...l_speaker.html



Could this be who manufactured the speaker I wonder?

FK in the far east? I'd say you're on to something.. :D

NK

[Dennis H]

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I'll have full measurements of these in a few weeks, with and without cone treatment (I'm assuming it will need it).

Cool! At $50, it could be a real sleeper. What kind of cone treatment are you going to use?

[augerpro]

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Well I have some Wet Look, some Titebond Melamine (suggested by John Janowitz if I can't get the real speaker coating stuff) and I'm looking at 3 products from CP Moyen, but have pretty much settled on a certain one. This was also suggested by John J as he uses a modified formulation from CP Moyen. The stuff I picked sounds just like what he uses, PVA based, very viscous, and slightly tacky. Small quantities might be a problem though. I haven't got a price quote yet.

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FYI, these are a B&C OEM driver. I bought a few. ;)

No, I couldn't find the model number to match any of their stock items. But the drivers' construction matches other B&C speakers and diaphragms. Given PE's relationship with B&C and some proprietary information that I can't talk about (heh), I have 100% confidence that these are indeed OEM B&C speakers.

Of course it's not the same. Could I not be any more clear? However, if you open up the CD driver, it shares the diaphragm of a B&C driver. So the case is a bit different. The construction methods of the woofer are clearly B&C - or a ridiculously good clone of them. The back plate is threaded, presumably to mount components for its intended commercial speaker design.
The one time I state 100% confidence, I get a redirect and rebuff. Christ.
Then who, prey tell, is the manufacturer?

These coaxials are Soundtube RF122-150. I've know that since the tent sale last year, have the store shelf package, full model w/XO, but was so enjoying the wispy arms flailing about the large central mass...:D
Now that they are gone, just thought I'd let you know.
Don't be so shy next time, or leave so early. Make sure to say hi this time when I see you at Dayton.;)

cheers,

AJ