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  • Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

    What would be the downside(s)? No pun intended...



    2.5 way design, with different chambers for the woofer portions, and flexible other options for sake of curiosity. Blue lines denote possible partitions, and the central portion of the cabinet.
    I will probably not post much in the way if finalization, as these are not repeatable. Only I have the midbass' for these.

    Other implementations in this shape could be done I wager. I speculate the width of the driver-area portions would all be the same and denote the same diffraction signature, correct? I really don't see this as being hard to model.

    Thanks for looking, and for the useful replies,
    Wolf
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    Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

    Very different style of cabinetry. I think the only thing I would investigate would involve eliminating the tubular support and instead, have something mount to the rear of the cabinets so it might resemble an airplane prop. Might be able to pull off a "floating" appearance.

    Scott

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    • #3
      Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

      It might be worth internally restricting the chambers such that each chamber is a different volume. I would think this could cut down on resonance.

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      • #4
        Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

        Wolf
        I like Scott's idea. If you use them in a LCR setup it would look like an old Ford Tri-Motor. In fact mount them on an electric motor with a remote for motor speed. The possibilities are endless. Cooling, both for the speakers and the room. Leslie/ phasng effect- imagine dark side of the moon in the dark room...and mount multi- color LED's on each... WAIT if you make them red, blue, green and sync the rotation speed to the music wouldn't the speaker just...disappear? WOW!

        Sorry.... Flashback. You said constructive. My real comment is Why?
        CC

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        • #5
          Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

          Its cool that you've gone out of your way to use 3 way different looking drivers, rather than 3 fullranges or coaxials.

          Downsides would people saying "Why?"

          Anyways, looks like fun. I anticipate witnessing them in Meatspace next DaytonDIY. :p ;)
          18hz is scary.

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          • #6
            Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

            It may be tough to have the tweeter at ear level which is usually preferred from a crossover design reference (and I don't think that those speakers would fit on stands very well).
            RJB Audio Projects
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            • #7
              Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

              With a name like trident, I am inclined to think that the ends should be brought to a point?
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              • #8
                Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

                Originally posted by isaeagle4031 View Post
                With a name like trident, I am inclined to think that the ends should be brought to a point?
                Being wolf I thought they were going to be made out of gum.:D

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                • #9
                  Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

                  It's different and, to my knowledge, other than a Vacuum Tube Amp of the same appearance, it's never been done as a speaker before. I say..."Have at You" - Monty Python Reference.

                  Do it Wolf! If anything, it will be a great compound angle cutting exercise, and they will certainly be a conversation piece.

                  You are definitely keeping the creative juices flowing.

                  Wayne

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                  • #10
                    Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

                    If you could get someone with a moderately sized metal fab shop to pull a favor, you could cantilever the bases on some 1/2" steel put through a break press, and do away with the tubular support...

                    Float them on a single point..
                    ~Mark

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                    • #11
                      Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

                      Originally posted by brianpowers27 View Post
                      It might be worth internally restricting the chambers such that each chamber is a different volume. I would think this could cut down on resonance.
                      I will either give the Extremis or the HS180 2 of the 3 chambers, for 1/3 and 2/3 volumes.
                      Later,
                      Wolf
                      "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                      "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                      "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                      "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

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                      • #12
                        Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

                        Originally posted by cpcarter View Post
                        My real comment is Why?
                        CC
                        Don't you know the man by now? ;)

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                        • #13
                          Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

                          Originally posted by waynew View Post
                          It's different and, to my knowledge, other than a Vacuum Tube Amp of the same appearance, it's never been done as a speaker before. I say..."Have at You" - Monty Python Reference.

                          Do it Wolf! If anything, it will be a great compound angle cutting exercise, and they will certainly be a conversation piece.

                          You are definitely keeping the creative juices flowing.

                          Wayne
                          Most of the cuts are 60 or 90 degrees, so it's not that hard to do. Just cut the front and back a little large and flush!

                          Thanks, Wayne, for the shove, but I was already pretty set on doing it.

                          cp- The "Why?" is "Why not!?" I have not seen it anywhere else, just like Wayne said, and it's not a rectangular-prism shape. There is not enough artistic shaping going on in this hobby, so Andy G, myself, Wayne, and others have to do more of it!!

                          Punk- yeah, why use FR or coaxes, as it will not combine well at the listening position. To me- you have 3 drivers in an MTM of anysort, and why not have '3 ends' to compliment it instead of just 2. When you offset a tweeter, this is what comes to mind...

                          Roman- These will be standmounts... of SOME sort....
                          Your tweeter height is an argument that is not without merit, but it shant be a problem.

                          killa- I'm *NOT* panting them *PINK*! :D:D

                          Brian- you evidently do! :D
                          "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                          "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                          "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                          "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                          *InDIYana event website*

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                          My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
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                          • #14
                            Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

                            Wolf

                            While my post was sarcastic and an attempt at a little humor at your expense I meant no harm. And when I asked "why?" I wasn't being negative. I wondered if you had a theory or a reason to use this form factor that would positively affect sound quality. After all, although I haven't seen it in print, our prime directive must contain something about " above all do no harm.. no wait wrong oath.. Above all the pursuit of Sound Quality first and formost...? (I just made that up). Based on that and that form follows function, it's a natural question to someone as accomplished as yourself, with many fine examples of excellence to your credit.
                            Of course to each his own and your experiment demonstrates the creative side of our pursuit. I'll be interested to see how it turns (oops sorry propellers again) out!
                            Cheers

                            CC

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                            • #15
                              Re: Constructive Criticism wanted...."Trident" prelim cabs...

                              Originally posted by cpcarter View Post
                              Wolf

                              While my post was sarcastic and an attempt at a little humor at your expense I meant no harm. And when I asked "why?" I wasn't being negative. I wondered if you had a theory or a reason to use this form factor that would positively affect sound quality. After all, although I haven't seen it in print, our prime directive must contain something about " above all do no harm.. no wait wrong oath.. Above all the pursuit of Sound Quality first and formost...? (I just made that up). Based on that and that form follows function, it's a natural question to someone as accomplished as yourself, with many fine examples of excellence to your credit.
                              Of course to each his own and your experiment demonstrates the creative side of our pursuit. I'll be interested to see how it turns (oops sorry propellers again) out!
                              Cheers

                              CC

                              I'm gonna have to give this a big question mark, as I was not taking any offense at all..

                              "Why not?" is how I come across some of my projects. You know, the "what if I...?" tormenting question.... Sometimes you just have to TRY it. As to the sound-quality aspect, it's not really a driving factor in initial idea for this one. It's more of a, "Can this be made to look this artsy-fartsy and sound good?" type question. Let's just say I hope it sounds as artful as it looks.

                              I appreciate the high-regard compliments you just threw my way as well, but this is just a fun hobby to me. If someone gets something splendid out of something I did, then I'm happy. It was all for the "pursuit of sonic splendor".

                              I suppose I should've used some smilies in my response to you for clarification. It's hard to grasp feelings in textual interfacing,
                              Wolf
                              "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                              "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                              "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                              "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                              *InDIYana event website*

                              Photobucket pages:
                              https://app.photobucket.com/u/wolf_teeth_speaker

                              My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
                              http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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