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**nick29498141** · 10-25-2009, 02:34 AM

Re: New Project

Originally posted by GuitarTom View Post

Thought I might share my new project. RS225S-8 X2 in a ML-TL cabinet. I have to thank Paul Kittinger for drawing up the plans. Thanks Paul. The wood is cut and ready to glue. Not quite sure what I'm going to do with the out side finish, though. Guitar Tom

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**GuitarTom** · 10-30-2009, 11:38 AM

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Made more saw dust yesterday. Got the driver holes routed out on the baffles. They are 1.25" thick. Hope to get started gluing the boxes together today. The weather has been great in Southern California for working outside. The "Bench Cookies I got from Rockler for around $11.00. They work great for holding your project in place. Even with saw dust on them.

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**GuitarTom** · 11-20-2009, 10:39 PM

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Spent the day in the garage making more saw dust.
The first pic is drawing the angle to be cut. The second is setting the guide. In the third I used 3/4" brads to hold the guide in place. I don't have to worry about the holes they made in the baffle because they will be covered with veneer. The forth is making the cut. Since the blade wasn't long enough to cut through the thickest part I had to use a hand saw to finish the cut. The hand saw was my wife's dads, nice rosewood handle very comfortable and does it hold an edge.

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**critofur** · 11-20-2009, 10:53 PM

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If it's an MLTL, why is the front baffle so short?

**Paul K.** · 11-21-2009, 10:21 AM

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Because the line is folded twice to create 3 segments, together making the line ~74" long, and the two RS225s are located in the first (front) segment with two more segments following (each segment runs vertically). Each segment is 24" long and with the thicknesses of the two dividers added in, makes the total length 73.5 inches. The CSA of the line is 12"W x 7.5"D along the whole line's length. The mass-loading port is located on the rear near the end of the line.
Paul

Originally posted by critofur View Post

If it's an MLTL, why is the front baffle so short?

**GuitarTom** · 11-21-2009, 06:16 PM

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Thanks Paul

**rogoll** · 11-21-2009, 06:28 PM

Re: New Project

Originally posted by GuitarTom View Post

Thought I might share my new project. RS225S-8 X2 in a ML-TL cabinet. I have to thank Paul Kittinger for drawing up the plans. Thanks Paul. The wood is cut and ready to glue. Not quite sure what I'm going to do with the out side finish, though. Guitar Tom

I wonder how many DIYers' projects were designed by Paul? I have two ML-TL projects waiting in the wings that Paul designed for me. One uses 6-1/2" Audax Aerogel drivers, then other is for the Dayton Classic 6-1/2".

To see the "family tree" descending from Paul would be an interesting thing.

**Paul K.** · 11-21-2009, 07:23 PM

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I'd like to see that tree, too. I've modeled more TLs than I can remember for others, a number for people in other countries. I don't know that all have resulted in actual builds, however. Besides my own Marcatos, there were 3 TLs at this year's Iowa DIY event that I modeled. I have a map of the world that my younger daughter gave me with the intent to spread it out on a cork board and put pins in it everywhere to designate TLs I modeled, but I've just never started. It's not that I don't have the time; I'm just lazy or I soon lose interest in some things, I guess.
Paul

Originally posted by rogoll View Post

I wonder how many DIYers' projects were designed by Paul? I have two ML-TL projects waiting in the wings that Paul designed for me. One uses 6-1/2" Audax Aerogel drivers, then other is for the Dayton Classic 6-1/2".

To see the "family tree" descending from Paul would be an interesting thing.

**rogoll** · 11-21-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by Paul K. View Post

I'd like to see that tree, too. I've modeled more TLs than I can remember for others, a number for people in other countries. I don't know that all have resulted in actual builds, however. Besides my own Marcatos, there were 3 TLs at this year's Iowa DIY event that I modeled. I have a map of the world that my younger daughter gave me with the intent to spread it out on a cork board and put pins in it everywhere to designate TLs I modeled, but I've just never started. It's not that I don't have the time; I'm just lazy or I soon lose interest in some things, I guess.
Paul

One another thread you mentioned what an "old geezer" you are. Something I've noticed as I grow older, is the desire to do for others. You become less focused on self, and much more on others...and family comes to mean so much more. There are a great many people grateful for you help!

**Pete Schumacher** · 11-22-2009, 10:27 AM

Re: New Project

Originally posted by rogoll View Post

One another thread you mentioned what an "old geezer" you are. Something I've noticed as I grow older, is the desire to do for others. You become less focused on self, and much more on others...and family comes to mean so much more. There are a great many people grateful for you help!

and when you're retired, you have more time on your hands to do the things you love. :D

Paul designed a couple TLs for projects I worked on but never personally built. I know I've designed a LOT more speakers than I've ever built, simply because it's fun to do. I'm guessing that's why Paul cranks out the models he does, because it's fun, as well as rewarding. I've seen the same character trait across different hobbies. A buddy of mine is a short wave enthusiast, and I see a lot in common with the speaker building community.

This winter I'll be working on the dual 8" TL Paul designed for me back in July. I can't wait to hear it. Like the others here, many thanks to Paul, and especially Martin King for creating such an excellent tool.

Check out Martin's TL gallery and you'll see a number of Paul's efforts featured there.

**Paul K.** · 11-22-2009, 12:58 PM

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I really, REALLY appreciate your kind comments. Pete's right; when you're retired you can mostly do what you enjoy the most. For me that's obviously designing and building speakers, but I can't begin to build all of the designs I might like because I'd really be speaker poor. Modeling for others allows me to design more than I would ever build, satisfying the creative itch to a large extent and being lots of fun to boot. Pete's thanks to Martin King for providing his very accurate and extensive worksheets, without which I'd be "up the creek" when designing TLs, is very appropriate.
Paul

**Paul K.** · 11-24-2009, 06:45 PM

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You're very welcome and I hope you didn't feel your progress report was unappreciated with this thread meandering away a bit by shifting its focus towards me. I certainly didn't intend for my work to hijack your thread. BTW, I sent you an email about this project and hope you got it.
Paul

Originally posted by GuitarTom View Post

Thanks Paul