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  • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

    Maybe this is a better place to post this project and question. I have been thinking about eWaving my Best Buy Insignias. First thought about using the 6x6" JBL WG but it was just a tad to big. I could make it fit, but it would take a lot of trimming. Then I saw Zilch's project using the Selenium HM17-25 and that WG would not need trimming to fit.

    So below is a pix of the Insignia and an FR for the woofer only.

    How do all think this would work out sound wise? I know I can build it, but would like to get some opinions as to the match up between the woof and WG.



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    • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

      I can't quite fit pairs of 226J in the Dayton MTM-0.75 along with the 6" square waveguide but the K6.5 buyouts squeeze in nicely. Thus, for S-6.5 I've ordered up a pair of these squircle B&Cs:



      I want to make FAT™ happen here, now that PCD has shown how.

      Those'll also fit with the 6" waveguide in TW-0.38 for a truly diminutive (Indignia-size) package....

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      • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

        You're just going to have to try it, Dennis.

        Since you use those nearfield, I don't think there's any detriment to the narrower dispersion of the little Selenium waveguide in your application.


        Originally posted by stgdz View Post
        yeoch that celestion isn't cheap.
        Shop around a bit further, and you'll find it just under $100 street price.

        Soon as you move up from D220Ti, in neodymium, especially, you get to this level pretty quickly....

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        • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

          Originally posted by Zilch View Post
          I can't quite fit pairs of 226J in the Dayton MTM-0.75 along with the 6" square waveguide but the K6.5 buyouts squeeze in nicely. Thus, for S-6.5 I've ordered up a pair of these squircle B&Cs:



          I want to make FAT™ happen here, now that PCD has shown how.

          Those'll also fit with the 6" waveguide in TW-0.38 for a truly diminutive (Indignia-size) package....
          The spec'ed response of the B&C 6NDL44 shows really good extension and to my untrained eye, minimal breakup. The bottom end response looks ideal for a 2.5 way, though the spec sheet doesn't say anything about the test box.

          The basket looks really strong. Now I want those...LOL.
          http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/14/bu...html?src=busln

          http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_new_york_metro_46/

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          • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

            FAT™ coaxes an additional 2.5 dB out of them, which may get this combo to 94 dB.

            I don't see any issues, either, thus far; if K6.5 works, these will too.

            [They're gonna rock, looks like.... :D ]

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            • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

              Thanks Z. They might be my main speakers in a couple months. No work for 8 months now and just signed the house back over to the back. We have 6 months to get out. If we end up in an apartment, they will be it.

              Would you recomment just using the crossover you posted for that WG?

              Edit: is there a better WG that you would recommend for that space? I have 7" x 5.25" to work with with no trimming.

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              • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

                Originally posted by djnagle View Post
                Would you recommend just using the crossover you posted for that WG?
                Your gig, bud. It's a start....

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                • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

                  When I typed in "FATTM" into google, I got Al Yankavitch. What is FAT?

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                  • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

                    Originally posted by Zilch View Post
                    Your gig, bud. It's a start....
                    One of these days, when I have money again, I'll get some measuring equipment, but for now I have to relie on.....you.:D

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                    • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

                      Thanks Z.

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                      • Re: EconoWave Mini S-6 - First Listen

                        Originally posted by Zilch View Post
                        Y'all know I don't do "How's it sound?" and I'm certainly not into hype, but in the course of gathering .frd and .zma data last night, I couldn't resist hooking it up to the prototype crossover sitting on the test stand from the previous S-8 builds for a quick listen.

                        OH, MAN! The big boys with custom drivers in their arsenal certainly know how to make this happen. I put Celestion CDX1-1731 on the little 6" square waveguide, dialed the L-pad flat within +/- 2.5 dB, and now can't wait to get this little guy into PCD and optimized....

                        Zilch, what 8" driver are you using here with the JBL 6" WG and Celestion CD? And, did you rebate those drivers or have it done? Those look great. If they perform well, I'm in.

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                        • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

                          That's a 6.5" woofer, actually (the cab is just 8.5" wide), JBL 226J, available through your JBL Pro dealer or authorized JBL Service Center. $80 MSRP.

                          I have a woodworking pal with a complete shop who's helping me with the baffles. I give him blank baffles (spares are available for all of the Dayton cabs,) driver and waveguide, and a layout, and he comes back with milled baffles ready to load.

                          As I demonstrated in the Mini E-Wave thread, mounting flush matters....

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                          • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

                            Zilch, keep crankin' 'em out...You Go Big Boy!...that's us back there tryin' to hang onto your shirt-tail :D

                            Here's a dream: I'd like to be your shop rat...;)
                            Mongo only pawn in game of life
                            ____
                            Ed

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                            • Re: Flex Your PCD Mettle:

                              Originally posted by Zilch View Post
                              That's a 6.5" woofer, actually (the cab is just 8.5" wide), JBL 226J, available through your JBL Pro dealer or authorized JBL Service Center. $80 MSRP.
                              Sure looks sexy. What's the response look like at the lower end of the spectrum?
                              Brian Steele
                              www.diysubwoofers.org

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