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    This was my first venture into DIY speaker building and I can't wait to start my next project!

    The Quindici Subwoofer (pronounced queen dee chee) is a variation of the original Triska Subwoofer design built in a 15" cube and using a Dayton SA100 plate amp with a Dayton 10" DVC shielded woofer, and 2 Dayton 10" passive radiators.


    I was told that since this was technically a new design, it also needed a new name. Since Shawn A's original Triska Subwoofer derived its' name from its' dimensions, I decided to follow suit. Being of Italian heritage, I chose the name "Quindici"; which means 15 in the Italian language.

    Some of these photos are repeats from an earlier posting, and additional photos can be found on my photobucket account. http://s790.photobucket.com/albums/y...fer%20variant/

    I decided to make my own circle jig for my router and it worked surprisingly well:


    I tested my work on some extra materials and was glad I did, it gave me much more confidence going into my finish pieces and taught me how much dust MDF creates:


    Next I built the cabinet with the help of a friend's table saw. I used a piece of white pine for the front baffle, as it will be getting a different fiinsh from the rest of the box. Biscuits were used at the joints. No screws were used, only Gorilla wood glue:


    I also did some test samples for the finishes:


    Next I routed out my driver recesses and amp cutouts, and applied two coats of automotive primer:


    I wetsanded the primer with 320 grit paper and applied a first coat of black laquer. It let me know how bad my prep work was and I had to do some additional priming and wetsanding:


    Barbed inserts were installed in the bottom of the cabinet for cone spikes. The bottom also proved to be a nice testing area for the finish work:


    I followed Bmaupin's piano black thread for the finish. It was extremely informative, and I won't outline my progress here, as he explains every step thoroughly. I only wish I had his finishing skills... 2 coats of auto primer, 3 coats of black laquer and 3 coats of clear laquer with wetsanding in between each coat and after the final coat:


    Next began the parts install, all mounting holes were drille prior to finish coat:


    The front baffle is a piece of white pine. I borrowed Wolf's burning effect to accentuate the wood grain (making sure to resaturate the wood) and then stained with Minwax China Red to match my coffee and end tables. Clear laquer was also applied, wetsanded, and buffed. This also shows that I didn't order enough acoustic foam and had to suppliment with carpet padding... worked just fine in a double layer. Silicone was applied to all interior seams and the holes for the barbed inserts prior to wall dampening installation:


    28 grams of mass were added to the passive radiators prior to installation. I used some stainless fender washers and the supplied 5mm bolt, Loctite was used to avoid any loosening:


    I used some 16 AWG flat speaker wire to connect the driver. Female blade connectors were soldered to the wires and heatshrink tubing made the connections pretty. The DVC driver is wired in parallel, positive to positive and negative to negative. The wire harness was then secured to the cabinet floor using a screw-mounting wire tie:


    Baxter was a little anxious to get the show on the road:


    Installing the final screw was a bittersweet moment, as I thoroughly enjoyed this project through every moment:



    A final photo in the workshop before moving upstairs for initial listening. The front baffle looks much more orange in this photo, it's actually a much deeper red:


    A new home:






    And a shot showing the cone spikes and floor I should have cleaned prior to taking this photo:




    I'm amazed at he bass this little cube can generate. I have no measuring equipment other than my ears, but the bass is clean, crisp, and powerful enough to throw a nice punch in my home theater. I'm currently running the volume at about one third, and the crossover about one quarter way. My receiver also has a crossover built-in, and I'm not sure where to set that just yet..


    This project was a blast in so many ways, and I could never have done it without the help of this fine message board and all of its' inhabitants.

    Special thanks to Shawn A. for sharing his original Triska design and inspiring this project.

    Special thanks to Wolf for his infinite wisdom and patience in helping me design the enclosure, offering his sage advice, and answering my noobie questions.

    And a special thanks to Bmaupin for his piano black thread.

    I look forward to any questions and/or commentary, and especially look forward to starting my next build - the Aviatrix left, right and center channels. Come on PE don't keep me waiting, let's see the Aviatrix driver package soon!;)

    Johnny Ravo
    "I could get a better look at a t-bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's a**, but I'd just as soon take my butcher's word for it."

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    Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

    That is beautiful, man.
    Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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    • #3
      Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

      that IS a very nice finish on your sub. one thing i would watch is the front baffle. being in the northeast with it's constant humidity changes, the pine might want to split.plus, is that a heat/ a/c duct behind the sub? you may want to move it to be safe. the last thing i want to do is rain on someone's parade, just watch it closely. i didn't read it in the text, but maybe pull out the drivers, take it out to your shop and seal the back of the baffle?

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      • #4
        Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

        Looks good and sounds like you had fun building it.

        On your crossover settings, only use one location to set the crossover. Either the AVR or the crossover amp and then either turn the other off(if possible) or all the way up. Then adjust just from the one location. Or if your AVR has auto calibrate turn both up all the way or off and then let the calibration set the crossover.

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        • #5
          Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

          first love the look.
          second the front baffle won't last. pine is soft and has a lot of issues. easy fix use thin plywood cut an inside piece measured from the baffle back. lets say 13 by 13 inches cut the matching hole to the woofer. so you have a perfect baffle backer that will not fit.

          dont worry. make a second one. use thin plywood 1/4 inch birch would be best. now pull the drivers out along with the amp. cut the baffle backer in half it should fit in the driver hole glue it to the back of the baffle. clamp and let dry. then cut the second baffle backer in half rotate it 90 degrees and glue it clamp it and let it dry. then seal it with varnish/poly put it all back together add some polyfil. it is a 10 dollar fix does not change the outstanding cosmetic looks of the sub. does not add a lot of weight and does not hurt the sound.

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          • #6
            Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

            Very nice build. I also love the biscuits. Makes life much easier.
            Mark
            My TriTrix Build
            My Core 2 Way Build
            My RSS315HF-4 Subwoofer Build

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            • #7
              Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

              Originally posted by philiparcario View Post
              first love the look.
              second the front baffle won't last. pine is soft and has a lot of issues. easy fix use thin plywood cut an inside piece measured from the baffle back. lets say 13 by 13 inches cut the matching hole to the woofer. so you have a perfect baffle backer that will not fit.

              dont worry. make a second one. use thin plywood 1/4 inch birch would be best. now pull the drivers out along with the amp. cut the baffle backer in half it should fit in the driver hole glue it to the back of the baffle. clamp and let dry. then cut the second baffle backer in half rotate it 90 degrees and glue it clamp it and let it dry. then seal it with varnish/poly put it all back together add some polyfil. it is a 10 dollar fix does not change the outstanding cosmetic looks of the sub. does not add a lot of weight and does not hurt the sound.
              From 10,000 feet, could I describe this as pine baffle re-inforcement?

              It took me a while to understand that you're suggesting he build up layers of plywood behind the pine baffle by making 2 thin plywood baffles, then cut them in half so they fit through the driver cutouts, then rotate them so the seams don't overlap.

              Sometimes, the "why" helps with understanding...

              Frank

              PS +1 on the nice job! Never remember to take pics on mine...

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              • #8
                Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

                Looks really nice, I like the stained wood and black contrast/combination.

                You may be okay with the pine baffle since you stained and sealed it, but still, it will still move along it's width. It's possible nothing will split though.

                It will end up being 'proud' of the sides -- probably enough to catch your nail if you slide it on it -- after some time has passed.

                I have made several projects in the past with pine, and none of them split or had serious issues, but I've heard that others have. If it's dry and sealed well, you may be okay.

                At least if something does give, you will be ready for it, and it won't be a big deal to fix it.

                Again, beautiful job!

                TomZ
                Zarbo Audio Projects Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEZ...aFQSTl6NdOwgxQ * 320-641 Amp Review Youtube: https://youtu.be/ugjfcI5p6m0 *Veneering curves, seams, using heat-lock iron on method *Trimming veneer & tips *Curved Sides glue-up video
                *Part 2 *Gluing multiple curved laminations of HDF

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                • #9
                  Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

                  Very nice job, Johnny! Looks fantastic.

                  On the pine- I've not had any issues with the pine in my 3CR-Ti at all. No splitting or expansion. I finished it wil polyurethane though, so that is where your finish is different than mine.

                  Enjoy it, and I'm glad I could help!
                  Wolf
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                  • #10
                    Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

                    DIY at its finest! Well done man!:D
                    .

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                    • #11
                      Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

                      Thanks everyone for viewing and leaving your comments and suggested improvements.... I'd never look it as anyone raining on my parade. The express reason for posting this thread was to hear from all of you about how I can make improvements as I venture further into DIY audio.

                      The members of this forum never let me down either.... when I posted the pics, I knew that positioning to the radiator would be mentioned!!! Great job... I have 6 of those heat registers in that room, and that one will be shut down for the winter or the sub will be moved to the other side of the room.

                      Thank you also for your commentary about the white pine front baffle. I did poly the backside of the baffle (but forgot to mention that) and used a total of 9 biscuits to join the baffle to the cabinet... hope that holds, but if not - I've already been given a remedy by the fine folks here.

                      Now stop reading and go make some saw dust!!!!:D

                      Johnny Ravo
                      "I could get a better look at a t-bone steak by sticking my head up a bull's a**, but I'd just as soon take my butcher's word for it."

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                      • #12
                        Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

                        Originally posted by fbov View Post
                        From 10,000 feet, could I describe this as pine baffle re-inforcement?

                        It took me a while to understand that you're suggesting he build up layers of plywood behind the pine baffle by making 2 thin plywood baffles, then cut them in half so they fit through the driver cutouts, then rotate them so the seams don't overlap.

                        Sometimes, the "why" helps with understanding...

                        Frank

                        PS +1 on the nice job! Never remember to take pics on mine...
                        You wrote so much more clearly then I did and that is exactly what I meant. He is lucky in that he has a driver and two radiator holes . Also a sub plate hole so his access is great for the re-inforcement of the pine baffle .. As an added bonus the screws that hold the sub to the pine will also go into the plywood backers really giving him no or little fear of warping.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

                          sweet. Nice job
                          Mark


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                          • #14
                            Re: Official build thread: The Quindici Subwoofer

                            nice. it really works well on the light floors.
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