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  • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

    Today is one of my days off, and I finally got a little free time to get one of these buttoned up and tested out just now. I just wanted to hop on here real quick and say... WOW!

    I've heard nothing but good things about these, but I never expected this kind of output from a speaker this size. Especially the lower end! I'm building these for my sister to go in her bedroom, and was debating whether I should build her a small sub to go with em. No need! The old reciever I use for testing right now is strictly rated 8 Ohm so I didnt play it very long. Looking forward to getting the other one finished and getting a capable amp for em.

    To anyone who is on the fence about building a set, I say go for it. You wont be disapointed.

    Ryan
    RYAN N.

    "Why do you have the stereo on while you're watching TV?" - "....Cause I like to party."

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    • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

      Another one who loves them :D.

      For me I played them, but was like were is the bass? I then realized I had to switch them to full range. Did that and :eek: ,every day they never stop amazing me.

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      • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

        Originally posted by MLS View Post
        Nick,

        I am not thinking of using the same crossover again. I would just like a compatible tweeter of a little higher quality and maybe crossed over a little lower. I would also like to do a build with less emphasis on the budget and more emphasis on quality components in the cross over.

        Scott
        So use higher quality components. I'm not certain you'll hear a difference. You have to realize something. When I built these for my father in law, I put them up against a pair of Polk RM40T's. Those are $1150/pair speakers, and these blew those away. I'm not entirely convinced that you could get much better sound with merely a few component improvements.

        Then again, I used metallized polypropylene caps in my crossovers. I didn't bother with NPEs, and I used the iron core inductor.

        Originally posted by fastbike1 View Post
        Why not pick a build with higher quality drivers to start. As many have commented, it doesn't make much sense to spend $30 in copper for a $15 driver.

        Also, there is significant difference of opinion about how much audible difference there is/is not in XO components once you're at lest at the Dayton/Bennic - Jantzen level.
        You are correct on the arguably nill difference you'll hear with more expensive crossover components.

        Oh it makes perfect sense. The thing about these tweeters is that the drivers have the capability to play quite high, so these are more "helper" tweeters than anything. They're not supposed to play very low. For what they are, they sound magnificent. I honestly don't think I would change anything about this design. The fact that they're so inexpensive speaks volumes of their quality. Many times drivers are not necessarily chosen based solely on price.

        I've looked through many of zaph's designs, and to name one, the ZA5 series presents a good parallel to this design with regard to tweeter choice. Here's what zaph had to say:

        I’m sure the $13 tweeter sounds great, but compared to a $40 tweeter, how good?
        Very good indeed. In fact, I chose this tweeter based almost completely on it's performance and it's small size. The fact that it only costs $13 is just a lucky bonus. To be clear though, value is important in all my designs. There are some other good small flange tweeters that perform a tiny bit better, but unfortunately they are very expensive.
        My point here is that, sure this might be a $10 tweeter, but what's to say that a $40 tweeter would sound significantly better and would integrate as well? I think Chris did an excellent job with this tweeter choice. Would it make you feel better spending $15 on an inductor if I sold you an ND20 for $30? Embrace the fact that this tweeter is such an amazing value and use that as a way to justify more expensive crossover components (if you're among those who think that the more expensive components will make am audible difference).

        Originally posted by nick650 View Post
        Another one who loves them :D.

        For me I played them, but was like were is the bass? I then realized I had to switch them to full range. Did that and :eek: ,every day they never stop amazing me.
        My father in law has had these for quite some time, and I'm still amazed at their clarity, imaging, and accuracy every time I walk into his room while they're playing. Its hard for me to leave.
        Modding the Lepai T-Amp

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        • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

          Originally posted by nick650 View Post
          Another one who loves them :D.

          For me I played them, but was like were is the bass? I then realized I had to switch them to full range. Did that and :eek: ,every day they never stop amazing me.
          If you don't mind me asking, what are you using to power yours? Ive been debating whether to pick up one of the Lempai (spelling?) amps, or build a nice Sure amp for them.
          RYAN N.

          "Why do you have the stereo on while you're watching TV?" - "....Cause I like to party."

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          • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

            Originally posted by DIYNut42 View Post
            If you don't mind me asking, what are you using to power yours? Ive been debating whether to pick up one of the Lempai (spelling?) amps, or build a nice Sure amp for them.
            The Lepai amp will not be powerful enough for these speakers. I've already tried it.
            Modding the Lepai T-Amp

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            • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

              I am using an 80's Nikko NA-590 integrated amp to power mine and it does pretty well. I forget what the output is, I bought it for $20. I want to try to put together a DIY amp to go along with the Nano Neo's and have thought about the Sure 100X2 amp but I am not sure how it would sound with the speakers. I think a ClassD amp would probably work pretty well but they are about double the cost of the sure amp.

              MLS

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              • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

                Onkyo HT-RC260. Bought it when it was $280 new shipped, taxed :D

                http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-RC260.../dp/B003FSTAVY

                100 watts plus into 8 ohm baby! They TOTALLY own my speakers, I keep trying to play my speakers to loud cause I LOVE THE BASS! I keep turning up the bass on it (bass is for the speakers and subwoofer is the sub on my receiver).

                One thing that scared me about these speakers is, there is no break up until distortion! Speakers are supposed to sound like crap then break, not these!

                I just don't understand how Chris could take such dinky drivers and make me smile every time I turn them on. Trance music or any bass lien driven song just is soooooooooo smooooooth and nice. After I heard them I decided to upgrade my crossover to the final level because I just wanted to max them out for the hell of it :D. Every single part except the tweeter coil has bin upgraded.

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                • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

                  nick,

                  I noticed that too! The part about no distortion till break up. I kept turning up the volume on my test reciever, and it kept surprising me because there was no distortition at all until the point that it started to break up! The reciever is an old Fisher circa 1998. 100w into 8 Ohm with an adjustable EQ across most of the band via knobs on the face of it lol.

                  I went ahead with the 6 part XO right off the bat with mine, but I havent looked into any upgrades yet.
                  RYAN N.

                  "Why do you have the stereo on while you're watching TV?" - "....Cause I like to party."

                  RSS390HF Build - http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=224998
                  AviaTrix Build - http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=230372
                  Wolf's PC Speakers Build - http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...84#post1838384
                  Overnight Sensations MT Build - http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...ation-MT-build

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                  • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

                    I'm using an older Kenwood amp and Sony processor. Amp is rated at 150w/ch I think. They get to uncomfortable levels (for the wife anyway:D) well before there is any audible distortion. When I took them to InDIYiana, Wolf was watching wondering if we were pushing them too far as we brought them up to reference levels in the room (around 90db I think). The excursion was just silly for these little suckers!!
                    https://www.facebook.com/Mosaic-Audi...7373763888294/

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                    • Re: 1 year anniversary

                      Originally posted by nick650 View Post
                      Thanks for the clear up, that makes total sense. I did build it to your specs and I can just play around with adding pollyfill or w.e to it.

                      Also, anyone know a good 2.1 or 4.1 channel AMP or receiver? I'm willing to make one. This is all hooked up to my PC so an AMP is all I really need since my sound card can do all the work (xonar dx). I also stumbled upon: http://ampslab.com/index.html any input on them?

                      Thanks!
                      Yikes. I started this thread just one year ago (a few days back). Missed the anniversary. Still going strong (blushing).

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                      • Re: 1 year anniversary

                        Originally posted by Chris Roemer View Post
                        Yikes. I started this thread just one year ago (a few days back). Missed the anniversary. Still going strong (blushing).
                        Like cars, classic designs hang around forever. I will be veneering mine today. Thanks for the support for the past year.
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                        • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

                          Chris,

                          You should be very proud of the success of the Nanos and the NTN's. Great concept, great design, great execution, and great support of builders. Oh yeah, great value, great sound -- I guess this list could go on for awhile. Anyway, thanks for your efforts and dedication to this project..

                          Ron
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                          • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

                            Originally posted by Soundslike View Post
                            Chris,

                            You should be very proud of the success of the Nanos and the NTN's. Great concept, great design, great execution, and great support of builders. Oh yeah, great value, great sound -- I guess this list could go on for awhile. Anyway, thanks for your efforts and dedication to this project..

                            Ron
                            What he said!
                            Modding the Lepai T-Amp

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                            • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

                              Chris- I have to delurk just long enough to also thank you for this great design. I have built two variations of your nano neo design and both sound way better than the parts price would indicate. I found that it is a lot easier to stray a little from the usual enclosure shape and materials if I don't have an arm and a leg invested in expensive drivers. I can also gift these to friends and family on my limited budget. I have had hours of fun building and listening to your design, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
                              Mark-
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                              • Re: on Sale - $55/pr (drivers & XO)

                                WOW those are some sweet builds. Is that a granite baffle?

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