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    Has anyone heard these in new or rebuilt form?
    I got what I would say a great deal and wanted to see if they are wortwhile rebuilding.
    The mids and Tweeters seem to be working fine.
    The 12" drivers have been replaced by Rockfords.
    One 15" has been replaced with a Pyle and the other one, factory, is dead. And the passives are shot.
    Believe ot or not they actually don't sound too bad as is.
    This is a picture that I found on-line.

    I am interested in your opinions.

    Thanks in advance!
    Keith
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    Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

    Wow! Looks like those would put out some sound, once you get the drivers matched up. Have you been able to get any factory info?

    Hope you've got a BIG listening room; I suspect you'll need some distance from them for the sound to even out.
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    • #3
      Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

      Here is the info I received from Brian Cheney of VMPS:

      4way, 22Hz-30kHz, 90dB/[email protected], 4 Ohms, 350W power handling.


      And replacement parts:

      15" passive $56ea
      15" active $115ea
      12" active $65ea
      5" mids $48ea
      1" softdomes $55ea
      ribbon supertweeter $55ea

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      • #4
        Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

        That's cool they're still in biz. The replacement parts' prices seem reasonable. If you go for the repair, I'd get some of those temp disconnect fuses to keep from blowing the drivers again. Someone here could help you in deciding which value rating would be best. Keep us posted!
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        • #5
          Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

          I don't know if the drivers were blown. I think they just suffered from suround rot, at least that is what happened to the passives that are still factory.

          Here is a link to their site:

          http://www.vmpsaudio.com/

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          • #6
            Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

            Brian Cheney has been in business since the early 70's and has always been known for providing quality, reasonably priced speakers with top notch support. I've bought a few of his speaker used and he has always been easy to reach, helpful and very accomodating despite the fact that I have never purchased any of his products new. His designs are somewhat different than textbook, but you can't argue with success, and Brian is probably one of longest surviving smaller speaker manufactueres in the US.

            It's probably best to stick with the replacement drivers from VMPS.

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            • #7
              Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

              Originally posted by dfaulds View Post
              It's probably best to stick with the replacement drivers from VMPS.
              I couldn't agree more. Anything else wouldn't sound right and would kill the resale value($1200+ in good shape).
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              • #8
                Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

                Since they were practically free, replace the damaged drivers and give them a listen. If you don't like the sound, throw them on Audiogon and you should make at least a small profit on them.
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                • #9
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                  http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?board=39.0
                  "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche

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                  • #10
                    Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

                    Originally posted by KeithL
                    Has anyone actually heard this model before?
                    From what I understand they retailed for about $2400/pr and virtually cost me $0 as I got as part of a package with a Parasound HCA-1200, P/Fet 900 II, a dead Pioneer PD-m4100 CD changer and these for $90. I was really ony interested in the Amp, but these intrigue me.

                    So the question is, should I try to rebuild and how much do I put into them?
                    Ages ago, when they first came out, I went to hear them at a new retailer in Orlando Florida.

                    I had never heard bass reach the depths that those things did. I watched the scene on Hoth, when the Imperial Walkers were stomping their way across the frozen landscape, and the visceral impact of those bad boys stuck with me to this day.

                    Couldn't begin to tell you about imaging, sound staging, etc., but their impact on my psyche was permanent.
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                    • #11
                      Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

                      Man, do I love the look of those.

                      Is there a DIY design that is similar to those?
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                      • #12
                        Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

                        I remember that Bert Whyte of Audio Magazine noted probably in the late '70s that an even larger pair he heard at a show sounded very nice. He tended to be pretty critical. He said something to the effect that, based on the apparently overblown driver configuration, he was not expecting much, but then used the word "flabbergasted" to describe his favorable reaction to an actual listen.

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                        • #13
                          Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

                          Originally posted by ckmoore View Post
                          Man, do I love the look of those.

                          Is there a DIY design that is similar to those?
                          they are very unusual, using both a 12 and 15 in the same volume, tuned with a PR.

                          Zaph designed a monkey coffin 12" 3-way using an MTM mid. It could be increased in size with an added PR to really plumb the depths like those VMPS did.

                          But a dual mid, dual tweeter 4-way isn't your normal DIY effort.
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                          • #14
                            Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

                            Ages ago, when they first came out, I went to hear them at a new retailer in Orlando Florida.

                            I had never heard bass reach the depths that those things did. I watched the scene on Hoth, when the Imperial Walkers were stomping their way across the frozen landscape, and the visceral impact of those bad boys stuck with me to this day.

                            Couldn't begin to tell you about imaging, sound staging, etc., but their impact on my psyche was permanent.
                            I couldn't agree more, the bass is incredible. If you can believe this, both passive 15"s are shot, the active 15" is shot in one and the other has been replaced by a PYLE 15", and the previous owner also replaced both of the 12" drivers with Rockford Fosgate 12"ers and they still shake the conrete floor in my unfinished basement. I can't imagine what they would sound like with all factory drivers. Hopefully I won't have to imagine too long.

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                            • #15
                              Re: VMPS Super Tower/R

                              Originally posted by ckmoore View Post
                              Man, do I love the look of those.

                              Is there a DIY design that is similar to those?
                              When I was in college I used to drool over the look of the VMPS speakers with all those drivers. The Supertower was near the top of my list of dream speakers at the time, along with the big Infinities, and.....
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