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    I'm trying to veneer my 2 pair of Aviatrices myself, instead of giving up and getting my carpenter friend to do it.

    I wasn't happy with how my edges were coming out. The box I did with a sharp, new, nonfolding utility knife looks...not good.

    I tried a flush trim bit in the router (new, Freud, carbide) . Very nice at cutting the veneer, I had no problems with tearout...but it wanted to leave a little bit of paper on the edge. With the contact cement, this paper folded over and stuck instantly to the next face (ARGH!). With the Unibond 800 I started using on the MLTLs, it just hangs there, and lets you come back and painstakingly rip it off.

    I wasn't tickled with the Unibond either, and since I'm trying to settle on a method, I ordered some Better Bond cold press glue, and tried it out. Used a bit too much glue on the first side with it, and I got a little bit of waviness in that panel, but it's not too bad, and I don't think anyone will notice on the ribbon-stripe mahogany, and I can arrange my room so nobody sees that side. Watch the video on the joewoodworker or veneersupplies site, it's a great help.

    I had bought one of the sharpened veneer saws at veneersupplies.com to use to piece together the back for the third sealed. And I thought, I don't really want to pull the car out of the garage tomorrow, fire up the router. I wonder if I could do it with the veneer saw, trimming the excess off of the just-veneered side.

    Wow. That is the cleanest edge I have ever seen. Seriously. One swipe of 120-grit, and it'll be absolutely perfect.

    So now I'll move onto the rest of the MLTLs tomorrow. I can't seem to get the corners to stick the first time with either the Unibond or the Better Bond, so I just go back after it dries and inject it with a glue syringe and clamp it. I'd stick to the Titan DX if I could reliably not foul it up.

    They say mistakes are how we learn; I hope I'm about done learning on this project.

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    Re: My new favorite tool: The veneer saw!

    Originally posted by JarOfSonicMen View Post
    I'm trying to veneer my 2 pair of Aviatrices myself, instead of giving up and getting my carpenter friend to do it.

    I wasn't happy with how my edges were coming out. The box I did with a sharp, new, nonfolding utility knife looks...not good.

    I tried a flush trim bit in the router (new, Freud, carbide) . Very nice at cutting the veneer, I had no problems with tearout...but it wanted to leave a little bit of paper on the edge. With the contact cement, this paper folded over and stuck instantly to the next face (ARGH!). With the Unibond 800 I started using on the MLTLs, it just hangs there, and lets you come back and painstakingly rip it off.

    I wasn't tickled with the Unibond either, and since I'm trying to settle on a method, I ordered some Better Bond cold press glue, and tried it out. Used a bit too much glue on the first side with it, and I got a little bit of waviness in that panel, but it's not too bad, and I don't think anyone will notice on the ribbon-stripe mahogany, and I can arrange my room so nobody sees that side. Watch the video on the joewoodworker or veneersupplies site, it's a great help.

    I had bought one of the sharpened veneer saws at veneersupplies.com to use to piece together the back for the third sealed. And I thought, I don't really want to pull the car out of the garage tomorrow, fire up the router. I wonder if I could do it with the veneer saw, trimming the excess off of the just-veneered side.

    Wow. That is the cleanest edge I have ever seen. Seriously. One swipe of 120-grit, and it'll be absolutely perfect.

    So now I'll move onto the rest of the MLTLs tomorrow. I can't seem to get the corners to stick the first time with either the Unibond or the Better Bond, so I just go back after it dries and inject it with a glue syringe and clamp it. I'd stick to the Titan DX if I could reliably not foul it up.

    They say mistakes are how we learn; I hope I'm about done learning on this project.
    Do you have a link or pic of this Magical Saw? I might need one.
    EDIT: I found it... they only have one saw.(http://www.veneersupplies.com/produc...eneer-Saw.html) Did you need to protect the side it rests on when you cut?
    Last edited by ocdSCHACK; 10-24-2010, 12:40 AM. Reason: Found it.

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      Re: My new favorite tool: The veneer saw!

      Originally posted by ocdSCHACK View Post
      Did you need to protect the side it rests on when you cut?
      Not sure yet; thus far I've only used it to trim two sides, so I'm running it against bare MDF. I'll probably slap some painter's tape on there just in case, but I'll already have to do that to prevent getting any squeeze-out from the glue on an already-veneered side.

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        Re: My new favorite tool: The veneer saw!

        Did you get a nice edge across the grain? During my project I found the veneer saw worked well with the grain, but I had a lot of tear out going across the grain;so much that I won't use the saw across the grain unless someone teaches me better technique).

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          Re: My new favorite tool: The veneer saw!

          I used that saw in 1964 under the watchful eye of a master woodworker. To cut across the grain, CUT WITH ALMOST NO DOWNWARD PRESSURE taking many passes. It works. :D:D:D

          George
          "In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semi-human. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland

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            Re: My new favorite tool: The veneer saw!

            Originally posted by moosespeaker View Post
            I used that saw in 1964 under the watchful eye of a master woodworker. To cut across the grain, CUT WITH ALMOST NO DOWNWARD PRESSURE taking many passes. It works. :D:D:D

            George
            It does; that's how I got almost no tearout on the first side.

            On the second side, I rushed it a bit, got some more tearout.

            So on the next piece, I went slow and made sure I had a backer board - again, almost no tearout.

            And in my case, I'm cutting left-handed, so I'm cutting _up_. So putting a scrap of poplar on top of the cut helps both with and across the grain.

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