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  • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

    Originally posted by roscoeiii View Post
    What I like about the Clef idea is that you would then have something paralleling the angle of the baffle.
    The only problem would be that the stand would be protruding a few inches out into the room in front of the cabinet. Not sure that's a good thing or bad, but it is something to consider as far as bumping into it.

    Then again, a custom sub, built to continue the curve of the bass clef, might be something to consider. But a stand . . . I'm not quite convinced.

    Here's Ed's newest 1/2" thick templates that he'll use to cut identical pieces for matching stands. He pushed the foot forward so now it's maybe half an inch shy of the baffle edge.

    Been sitting here thinking of what it would be like to stretch some fiberglass across those ribs . . .

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    • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

      Been sitting here thinking of what it would be like to stretch some fiberglass across those ribs . . .
      Awesome, that's what it would be like(and possibly like a PITA).

      I think fiberglass laid down with a vertical concave shape in between the ribs would look great with those speakers on top.

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      • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

        It's a really interesting design problem.

        I think the MiniByzy is actually a very slender speaker for what it accomplishes.

        I thnk the new pedestal would work wonderfully if you dropped a plumb line from the bottom edge of the baffle (read: no trip hazard) and reflected the curve of the back of the cabinet.

        My first thought was a bit "stylized" without considering the center of gravity of the speaker.

        You could easily improve side-to-side stability with extension rods without compromising the design.
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        • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

          Originally posted by czag View Post
          I think fiberglass laid down with a vertical concave shape in between the ribs would look great with those speakers on top.

          Chris
          Exactly . . . but how much work . . . ughh.

          Originally posted by BeeTL
          if you dropped a plumb line from the bottom edge of the baffle (read: no trip hazard) and reflected the curve of the back of the cabinet.

          My first thought was a bit "stylized" without considering the center of gravity of the speaker.

          You could easily improve side-to-side stability with extension rods without compromising the design.
          I know Ed looked at a lot of different approaches. This one at least continued the line of the back to form a continuous curve. So you're saying to reflect the back side of the vertical piece onto the front, so that they're parallel, in effect continuing the back side of the cabinet curve under the front of the baffle. That's kind of the idea of the bass clef.

          One good part is, the stands really are small. Being larger than your typical stand mount monitor, getting tweeter height takes less stand to get there. As is, these will be pretty darn stable, and the stand will be incredibly strong.
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          • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

            this is a very long thread!:D
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            • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

              Originally posted by D, Rose View Post
              this is a very long thread!:D
              Alright, I know the garage is ready by now. Where are the stands????




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              • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

                Truly awesome build Pete, Ed and Ryan! Any update on the stands?
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                • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

                  Thanks for the compliment!

                  Ed's got one in the works as we speak. Should look something like this.


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                  • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

                    I think that shape is going to flow MUCH better! I now it is ported on the bottom, but if there is anyway to get the back support even at the top with the back of the speaker, it would look even better. Either way, it looks better already.
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                    • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

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                      • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

                        OK, Ed sent me a shot of the latest version. All that's missing is the beveled cut on the base of the stand.

                        The final version will have the crossover in the base, with the speaker connected via a 4-pole Speakon connector and a cable run up through the column which exits at the back, below that horseshoe cutout. Should be very tidy.





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                        • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

                          those are splindid.
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                          • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

                            That looks... "correct" for the speaker. Good job. That thing must weigh 50lbs itself, haha.

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                            • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

                              Originally posted by greywarden View Post
                              That looks... "correct" for the speaker. Good job. That thing must weigh 50lbs itself, haha.
                              I believe you're right. This is how they look on the stands. They're on their way to the Meniscus event today.



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                              • Re: MiniByzy (Mini Byzantium) Build Thread

                                A rounded base would flow with the top better, but it's still a huge improvement.
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