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  • Pete Schumacher
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    OK, Ed sent me a shot of the latest version. All that's missing is the beveled cut on the base of the stand.

    The final version will have the crossover in the base, with the speaker connected via a 4-pole Speakon connector and a cable run up through the column which exits at the back, below that horseshoe cutout. Should be very tidy.





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  • fdieck
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    Once out of nature I shall never take
    My bodily form from any natural thing,
    But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make
    Of hammered gold and gold enamelling
    To keep a drowsy Emperor awake;
    Or set upon a golden bough to sing
    To lords and ladies of Byzantium
    Of what is past, or passing, or to come.


    Exerpt from "Sailing To Byzantium" by William Butler Yeats

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  • WernerM
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    I think that shape is going to flow MUCH better! I now it is ported on the bottom, but if there is anyway to get the back support even at the top with the back of the speaker, it would look even better. Either way, it looks better already.

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Thanks for the compliment!

    Ed's got one in the works as we speak. Should look something like this.


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  • WernerM
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    Truly awesome build Pete, Ed and Ryan! Any update on the stands?

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Originally posted by D, Rose View Post
    this is a very long thread!:D
    Alright, I know the garage is ready by now. Where are the stands????




    :p

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  • D, Rose
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    this is a very long thread!:D

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Originally posted by czag View Post
    I think fiberglass laid down with a vertical concave shape in between the ribs would look great with those speakers on top.

    Chris
    Exactly . . . but how much work . . . ughh.

    Originally posted by BeeTL
    if you dropped a plumb line from the bottom edge of the baffle (read: no trip hazard) and reflected the curve of the back of the cabinet.

    My first thought was a bit "stylized" without considering the center of gravity of the speaker.

    You could easily improve side-to-side stability with extension rods without compromising the design.
    I know Ed looked at a lot of different approaches. This one at least continued the line of the back to form a continuous curve. So you're saying to reflect the back side of the vertical piece onto the front, so that they're parallel, in effect continuing the back side of the cabinet curve under the front of the baffle. That's kind of the idea of the bass clef.

    One good part is, the stands really are small. Being larger than your typical stand mount monitor, getting tweeter height takes less stand to get there. As is, these will be pretty darn stable, and the stand will be incredibly strong.

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  • BeeTL
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    It's a really interesting design problem.

    I think the MiniByzy is actually a very slender speaker for what it accomplishes.

    I thnk the new pedestal would work wonderfully if you dropped a plumb line from the bottom edge of the baffle (read: no trip hazard) and reflected the curve of the back of the cabinet.

    My first thought was a bit "stylized" without considering the center of gravity of the speaker.

    You could easily improve side-to-side stability with extension rods without compromising the design.

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  • czag
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    Been sitting here thinking of what it would be like to stretch some fiberglass across those ribs . . .
    Awesome, that's what it would be like(and possibly like a PITA).

    I think fiberglass laid down with a vertical concave shape in between the ribs would look great with those speakers on top.

    Chris

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Originally posted by roscoeiii View Post
    What I like about the Clef idea is that you would then have something paralleling the angle of the baffle.
    The only problem would be that the stand would be protruding a few inches out into the room in front of the cabinet. Not sure that's a good thing or bad, but it is something to consider as far as bumping into it.

    Then again, a custom sub, built to continue the curve of the bass clef, might be something to consider. But a stand . . . I'm not quite convinced.

    Here's Ed's newest 1/2" thick templates that he'll use to cut identical pieces for matching stands. He pushed the foot forward so now it's maybe half an inch shy of the baffle edge.

    Been sitting here thinking of what it would be like to stretch some fiberglass across those ribs . . .

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  • roscoeiii
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    What I like about the Clef idea is that you would then have something paralleling the angle of the baffle.

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  • davepellegrene
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    I like the look of the stand. If you want to take away some of the "hippo" look maybe beefing up the feet a little bit.

    This is a crude paint drawing but gives you the idea.

    Dave
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  • D, Rose
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    OUCH!!! A hippo balancing on a bar stool? HA! I was trying to minimize the stands mass; the speaker shape is "heavy" enough. I've tried different shaped bases; some 2 tube to 3 tube design ideas; nothing seems to fit the Aurora until this one. It may look "flimsy" but it actually is made from 1" thick Plumcreek MDF. Its more like an I beam than a speaker stand. I think it'll hold at least 300lbs. I'll see where it breaks at; I have 700 lbs of weights here. I think it'll hold it all. I'll spray the prototypes black and take pics of them holding up their "Hippos". I think the black will work better than the raw MDF. Funny you should mention the bass cleft; my first design was that exact shape with 2 tubes running vertically through it to hold the top and bottom apart. I couldn't bend 1/8th hardboard that severely. I put too much time in the speakers; spending another 20 hours on fiberglass for stands isn't in the cards.

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  • BeeTL
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    I'll have to pass along your suggestion. It would certainly follow the line a bit better, but the protruding beam might pose some other "tripping" issues. The center of mass of that cabinet is in the back half, actually directly over the vertical beam that runs side to side.

    But I get your idea . . .
    When I first saw them it took me a long time to realize the front baffle was flat and not curved like the other surfaces.

    I'd suggest the tip of the "clef" should end where the baffle would touch the floor if the plane were extended.

    It's hard to tell from the angle of the photo if the side and back legs continue the curves that end just above them, but if not, I'd suggest they should.

    The speakers deserve a stand that equals and complements their beauty.

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