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  • Wolf
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    I'm with everybody else.
    Where's the 'substance' or 'heft' that
    the cabinets inspire or beg the stands to have?

    I would be leery of putting those cabs on those stands.

    Later,
    Wolf

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  • Face
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    Besides them looking like a hippo balancing on a bar stool, they don't appear to flow either.

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  • marvin
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    Pete, I like the style, but they look very tipsy, considering the weight they support! The bottom of the base just looks too narrow in the pics to be stable when bumped by a child.

    I have always been a bit concerned with my own Modula MTs on a relatively tall stand.....heavy speaker with little mass under it.....a formula for disaster if there are children in the home. If there are never children around, it may not be a concern, but few homes are always without visiting (if not resident) children.

    Marv

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Originally posted by BeeTL View Post
    My first impression is they're beautiful by themselves but don't integrate as well as they could with the speaker's design.

    I think they should coninue the lines of the enclosure to the floor, and the back leg does this well.

    The front and side legs need to have a little better "flow".

    Make sense?

    EDIT:

    The more I look at it, the more I like it.

    I think if you moved the "toe" of the front leg further forward and made the curve like a bass clef, you'd be right there.

    I'll have to pass along your suggestion. It would certainly follow the line a bit better, but the protruding beam might pose some other "tripping" issues. The center of mass of that cabinet is in the back half, actually directly over the vertical beam that runs side to side.

    But I get your idea . . .

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  • BeeTL
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    Once the uprights are that same Cadillac Black Diamond, they'll visually become harder to distinguish, and form a more solid shape. I'm anxious to see how that affects the look.
    I don't know I've I've said it before, but the MiniByzy is one of the most visually strking design objects I've ever seen...period.

    I really think they're something special.

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Originally posted by BeeTL View Post
    They're beautiful by themselves but don't integrate well with the speaker's design.

    I think they should coninue the lines of the enclosure to the floor, and the back leg does this well.

    The front and side legs need to have a little better "flow".

    Make sense?
    Once the uprights are that same Cadillac Black Diamond, they'll visually become harder to distinguish, and form a more solid shape. I'm anxious to see how that affects the look.

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  • BeeTL
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    Ed's making some matching stands. The unfinished prototypes are below. He's scooping out just a bit more material on the upright piece below the vent.

    The upright pieces are to be painted to match the cabinet sides, the top, to match the cabinet baffle.

    What do you guys think?
    My first impression is they're beautiful by themselves but don't integrate as well as they could with the speaker's design.

    I think they should coninue the lines of the enclosure to the floor, and the back leg does this well.

    The front and side legs need to have a little better "flow".

    Make sense?

    EDIT:

    The more I look at it, the more I like it.

    I think if you moved the "toe" of the front leg further forward and made the curve like a bass clef, you'd be right there.

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Ed's making some matching stands. The unfinished prototypes are below. He's scooping out just a bit more material on the upright piece below the vent.

    The upright pieces are to be painted to match the cabinet sides, the top, to match the cabinet baffle.

    What do you guys think?







    Last edited by Pete Schumacher; 03-10-2012, 04:28 PM.

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  • roscoeiii
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    They look even better in person. Cabinets are real works of art. And dead dead dead.

    Pete has said he's tweaked the sound since I heard it, and wow did what I hear impress me. Really put waveguide on the map for me (admittedly a newbie to speaker design).

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  • arlis_1957@yahoo.com
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    just a great build pete. a great colaboration also. thanks for the great documentation as well. look forward to see where else you go with this waveguide.

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Originally posted by TN Allen View Post
    It's attractive! I thought perhaps there was an advantage over flush mounting the woofer.
    Recessing it like that allows for a better acoustic center alignment, since the guide offsets the tweeter by 2" and the slant, even further back. It also allows the woofer to simply be clamped down by the baffle face and the inner baffle the woofer sits on.

    With the baffle vertical, flush mounting to the baffle front would be a great way to go. The L.O.K.I. project will do just that.

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  • TN Allen
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    It's attractive! I thought perhaps there was an advantage over flush mounting the woofer.

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Originally posted by TN Allen View Post
    I am curious about the effect of the radius edge around the woofer opening, how has that affected the sound from the woofer? Perhaps I missed discussion about this earlier in the posts, if so, could you tell me where to look. Thank you!
    At the frequencies of operation, that roundover has no effect on the woofer response. The cone is too wide, and the roundover too small for it to act as any kind of diffraction obstacle.

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  • TN Allen
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    I am curious about the effect of the radius edge around the woofer opening, how has that affected the sound from the woofer? Perhaps I missed discussion about this earlier in the posts, if so, could you tell me where to look. Thank you!

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  • dlneubec
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    Righto! A little different form of directivity.

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