"Trichotomy"- an oddly non-disparate design...

[Face]

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They look great! Looking forward to seeing some better pictures of them.

[Wolf]

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Just to clarify, I meant the Vijon statement to say/envoke; "non-fatiguing, though a touch hot", just in case you slipped an 'A' in there when you read it.

As to the 'SotA' comment, it IS just a 2-way, and a stand-mount at that.

If you can use a Morel that low and like it, and let me listen and I like it, only then will I agree that low is possible. I would not use most of them below 1.7kHz.

I don't believe there are any distortion issues in the Trichotomy design....

You are welcome to your own opinion, and you also know that I try blends of drivers that noone else really thinks are viable/easy because I think it'll work and accept the challenge- just because I can. You are welcome to approach your design your own way, ie- tuning at Fs, as you do, but I question your tact in stating your method would've been "better" than the way I handled the design and driver selection.

There are always compromises, and I did not see the xover point and application as one, even if you did.

Later,
Wolf

[Taterworks]

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Ben, I'm not trying to be a total douche, but I also don't feel like I'm being overly critical here. I hope it doesn't seem like I'm only here to rain on your parade. Yes, I would have gone about the project a little differently, mainly because I don't trust ribbons at the same low crossover points where I would trust domes. The Trichotomies are certainly not bad for what they are, given the challenges involved, but my opinion is that there are other projects you've done that I have liked better.

That being said, I haven't heard them since the mods, so the issue I heard at Chicago DIY could be totally solved by now. I'll just wait and see.

[Wolf]

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Ben, I'm not trying to be a total douche, but I also don't feel like I'm being overly critical here. I hope it doesn't seem like I'm only here to rain on your parade. Yes, I would have gone about the project a little differently, mainly because I don't trust ribbons at the same low crossover points where I would trust domes. The Trichotomies are certainly not bad for what they are, given the challenges involved, but my opinion is that there are other projects you've done that I have liked better.

That being said, I haven't heard them since the mods, so the issue I heard at Chicago DIY could be totally solved by now. I'll just wait and see.

That is the only small planar I would even try that xover with. Any other model I know of will not be capable.

I know the Attitudes are far better, don't get me wrong.

Nah- I know you mean well.

See you in a few days,
Wolf

[6thplanet]

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Dude, lookin good! Glad I'll get to see them finished at the KY event, see ya there.

[PassingInterest]

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Thanks, PI! Hope it clarifies some things for you. SSSibilance is normally manifested lower between 6-8kHz, and I think the spike at 12kHz was the main factor here, maybe even a harmonic of the normal issue.

Later,
Wolf

Yes, it helped a lot. Thanks for the explanation and again, those look great! Very nicely done, sir.

[mattp]

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Very cool design Wolf, I can safely say I've never seen a cabinet quite like it!

[Wolf]

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Thanks, PI!

Matt-
You comin' down to hear them this wekend? And- you know that is a compliment, don't you?

I've never seen a cabinet quite like it!

....and one I strive for. Thank you!

Thanks, fellas!
Wolf

[mattp]

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You know that is a compliment, don't you?


....and one I strive for. Thank you!

Thats why I said it ;)

I knew you were going to ask me about this weekend and unfortunately I can't make it (again ) I don't have anything to bring anyway...I should be getting started on my D5G design soon so hopefully by the time the next relatively local DIY get together comes around we can compare the two. Although the cost of the Neo3's shot up (my cost anyway) so I'm going to use the Usher 9950C instead.

This has been a crazy year!!

Matt

[fjhuerta]

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I also think the damping pad on the chamber back helped too. Sounds a little less 'dark'.
Hope it's useful, the 20 ohm was mainly for level, but the zobel tamed it nicely.

Later,
Wolf

Yeah, I learned a lot just by looking at what you did at the crossover point. Hopefully, people who are using the Neo3 will look at this thread first and will know where to look when the ZZZZZZZZing! starts.

[tom_s]

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Nice looking stuff there Wolf! If these are neck & neck with your Vijons, then you have concocted another very nice speaker.

I know the Attitudes are far better

Yeah...you pretty much set the bar on the top peg with those!

[Wolf]

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Thanks, Tom! I think both Vijon and Trike' have admirable qualities in sound. But not everyone's ears agree on everything.

Yeah- I believe I did on that last point...

Thanks,
Wolf

[Wolf]

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Darn! InDIYana (Ft. Wayne) is the next I'm aware of- 'bout late April.

Normally I'd be able to stop in at PE at get the just-released new PE catalog on the way down to CKY-DIY. Since I'm on 1st without vacation at the moment, that won't happen this year and I'll have to wait for the next week. In other words- I'd normally be able to pop-in and see you, but not this year.

See you at InDIYana,
Wolf

[gowa]

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That is very cool!

[Andy_G]

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oooo look, Wolfy's gone and lost his set square !!!! :p

seriously though.... that speaker is looking good !



Hi guys,

working hard on many other things, and needed a break from the speaker stuff (moved house, no room to put any new stuff anyway.)

Will try to get back here more regularly once I get this Uni stuff finished, hopefully early next year.

Best Wishes to All