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  • Best new midwoofer?

    I have been working with some new drivers so I thought I would post a few pics and comments.

    This is the best midwoofer I have seen for quite some time. It's the new SB Acoustics Satori MW16P. Mine cam efrom Meniscus (you can download the spec sheet on it there, my sample meaured right on spec). It has a Kapoc Papyrus cone, very advanced motor design and Neo magnet. Measurements on it are exceptional for a small speaker. It measured a 29Hz Fs right out of the box and Le was nearly non-existent, measuring only 0.12mH, with the flattest impedance curve I have ever seen in a midwoofer. And speaking of flat - the frequency response was extended to 15khz with no nasty peaking usually associated with hard cones. Very impressive driver. Here's a few pics:





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    Re: Best new midwoofer?

    Jeff,

    How does the dip at 1.2K look like in your measurement? Do you have FR and Harmonic distortion charts?

    It looks good. Just too expensive....

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      Re: Best new midwoofer?

      That's a shot across the bow of the Revelator. Maybe cost is no object with that sort of woofer, but still, I think it could be much more affordable if it used a ferrite magnet. Also, it's got that stigma of "made in China."
      Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

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        Re: Best new midwoofer?

        Originally posted by internova View Post
        Jeff,

        How does the dip at 1.2K look like in your measurement? Do you have FR and Harmonic distortion charts?

        It looks good. Just too expensive....
        I can't find them anywhere.

        How expensive are they?

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          Re: Best new midwoofer?

          Meniscus has them listed at $187 and Madisound at $287. I"m guessing the Madisound price is correct?

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            Re: Best new midwoofer?

            Originally posted by foxfire3 View Post
            I can't find them anywhere.

            How expensive are they?
            http://meniscusaudio.com/satori-mw16p-p-1302.html

            $187.87/ea.

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              Re: Best new midwoofer?

              Originally posted by jcpahman77 View Post
              $187 is more "reasonable". I thought it was $287 but I'm guessing that's a price mistake. ;)

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                Re: Best new midwoofer?

                Ok, thank you.

                If the Madisound price is correct, better hurry up and get 'em from Meniscus before they catch the error.

                $187 is still pretty expensive for that size driver.

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                  Re: Best new midwoofer?

                  The Cat # for the one at Madisound is an MW16P-B, so maybe they are different. Or maybe the B just stands for Big mark up. :D:o

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                    Re: Best new midwoofer?

                    Very impressive data sheet. How about some distortion plots? Lets see if it really brings the goods.
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                      Re: Best new midwoofer?

                      Originally posted by Paul Carmody View Post
                      That's a shot across the bow of the Revelator. Maybe cost is no object with that sort of woofer, but still, I think it could be much more affordable if it used a ferrite magnet. Also, it's got that stigma of "made in China."
                      Except it's not made in China. It's made in Indonesia, if that's any difference. It is designed by the former Scanspeak engineers that designed the Revelator series.... if that makes any difference.
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                        Re: Best new midwoofer?

                        Originally posted by internova View Post
                        Jeff,

                        How does the dip at 1.2K look like in your measurement? Do you have FR and Harmonic distortion charts?

                        It looks good. Just too expensive....
                        If I get a chance tomorrow I will try to get those measured.
                        Click here for Jeff Bagby's Loudspeaker Design Software

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                          Re: Best new midwoofer?

                          Originally posted by Jeff B. View Post
                          If I get a chance tomorrow I will try to get those measured.
                          That's wonderful. Just curious, when you mount a "generic" woofer for testing, what kind of baffle would you use? A big wide / infinite baffle?

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                            Re: Best new midwoofer?

                            So what tweeter would you pair this up with? Something like a RAAL? Too rich for my blood, but definitely drool worthy.

                            Edit: just saw your other post, that N26 is schweeet!
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                              Re: Best new midwoofer?

                              Is that going to be paired up with the SB 26 or the Transducer Labs N26?
                              Brad
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