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  • MSaturn
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    anyone spending $2000 on a pair of speakers minus the amps, crossover, and whatnot shouldn't be averse to measuring if they wish to use their own crossover. I would also go miniDSP, probably.

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  • Pallas
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    Originally posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    No it's not. If he's heard mixed reviews, and relays that to the gang, how is that a cheap shot?
    I jumped the gun at first.

    Originally posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    We've used the miniDSP, and were less than pleased with the overall sound compared to not running them and going to a passive XO. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with them, but they certainly merited removal from the system once we heard them. But, that's just our ears and personal preference.
    Same transfer function? If used properly, the only difference will be that the passive one will require more power for an equivalent SPL, due to losses.

    And yes, I use and have a miniDSP, albeit currently only on subs (not mains, though that's certainly an option in the future). I've also seen enough measurements of it to know that it's perfectly fine.

    Note that John K uses it fairly extensively as well. As does Bill Waslo.

    Originally posted by rickcraig View Post
    No cheap shot intended; in fact, I wish there were more lower cost DSP units available made expressly for home audio.
    Fair enough. One thing about the miniDSP that is HIGHLY relevant to the instructions for this kit is that PE doesn't sell miniDSP's, but does sell an alternative in the Berry box. Nothing wrong with PE being self-interested enough to exclude mention of a part they don't sell, in favor of a part they do sell.

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  • John_Frum
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    You think I could run these on a Lepai T-amp?

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  • rickcraig
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    Originally posted by Jim Griffin View Post
    I noticed today that the CBT is listed as out of stock on the P-E website. Several people have obviously ordered their kits already.
    ND91 woofers are out-of-stock but more will arrive soon.

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  • czag
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    Originally posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    No it's not. If he's heard mixed reviews, and relays that to the gang, how is that a cheap shot?

    We've used the miniDSP, and were less than pleased with the overall sound compared to not running them and going to a passive XO. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with them, but they certainly merited removal from the system once we heard them. But, that's just our ears and personal preference.
    I wonder if they would perform better just handling the woofer to midrange section in a 3way?

    Chris

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  • rickcraig
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    Originally posted by Pallas View Post
    That's a cheap shot at a perfectly good product.
    No cheap shot intended; in fact, I wish there were more lower cost DSP units available made expressly for home audio.

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  • Pete Schumacher
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    Originally posted by Pallas View Post
    That's a cheap shot at a perfectly good product.
    No it's not. If he's heard mixed reviews, and relays that to the gang, how is that a cheap shot?

    We've used the miniDSP, and were less than pleased with the overall sound compared to not running them and going to a passive XO. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with them, but they certainly merited removal from the system once we heard them. But, that's just our ears and personal preference.

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  • Pallas
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    Originally posted by rickcraig View Post
    I'm guessing it would be but I've heard mixed feedback on those.
    That's a cheap shot at a perfectly good product.

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  • rickcraig
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    Originally posted by Pallas View Post
    A 2x4 miniDSP isn't adequate?
    I'm guessing it would be but I've heard mixed feedback on those.

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  • fjhuerta
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    If any speaker was ever worth $2000... this is it.

    If it was a commercial offering I wouldn't be surprised to see it go for $20-$40K. Seriously.

    If I could buy it over here I'd start saving my pennies TODAY and get it on December or so. Those are my dream speakers!

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  • Jim Griffin
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    If you haven't reviewed the assembly instructions of the CBT yet, do so and most questions will be addressed. Marshall and Don did a great job in preparation of the document. It is an excellent treatment of the details and some insight to how the array works.

    Specific setup details are included for the DCX2496.

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  • jinjuku
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    Originally posted by Steve Henry View Post
    DEQ2486 on sale here for $228 shipped:
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...igital_EQ.html
    I don't believe the DEQ 2496 has a cross over function and is just two channels.

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  • jinjuku
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    Originally posted by Steve Henry View Post
    Yes it does.
    No, it means something like two Crown XTi 2's, two Behringer iNukes, you could do a Carvin DCM2004L and a MiniDSP 2X4 Balanced. So looking anywhere from $700 to $1000.

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  • GranteedEV
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    Originally posted by Jim Griffin View Post
    I noticed today that the CBT is listed as out of stock on the P-E website. Several people have obviously ordered their kits already.
    :eek:

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  • Jim Griffin
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    Re: CBT36 Line Array has arrived!

    I noticed today that the CBT is listed as out of stock on the P-E website. Several people have obviously ordered their kits already.

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