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    I have a project idea that could be fun, kind of a variation on the powered lunchbox theme.

    Basically, a little powered TV/monitor stand with an integrated lazy-susan.

    As much as I want to like the Aura NS3, the pincushion frame feels like a deal-killer, at least for now.

    I may change my mind, but in the mean-time, what's the best 3-4" full-range performer in a .25 ft^3 sealed or ported box?

    With a little coaxing I could be persuaded go with a two-way bookshelf design like the OS.

    Clean frames and/or beauty/style points are a plus.

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    Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

    How does the RS-100 (4 or 8) strike you? It can be used full-range although most people say some contouring network makes it sound better over-all. The Tang-Band W4-656SC 4" shielded is on sale for $19 and either one of the Nuance buy-out $2.50 tweeters could handle the top end on the cheap. Last option I see is the Tang-Band W4-1052SDF. With either 4" T-B full-range, you'll lose some above 15-17KHz but they're pretty smooth otherwise, and in the right ported enclosure, might get into the 50's. Both are in the high 80's efficiency-wise and handle about 20 watts RMS/40 peak. I like the Nuance TW5-073LR buy-out because it can cross a little lower than it's brother.
    Side way jump is go to Zaph Audio and look at his 4" Bargain Mini's 2-ways using the MCM #55-3853 cast frame 4" and the Madisound Aurasound NT-1-204-8D titanium dome tweeter. The tweeter has jumped from $9 to $15.90 each (neo prices) but the XO part list isn't extensive or expensive and you just have to see how he hammered the FR of these bargain drivers together. Imagine really great sounding Minimus 77's for $85 a pair or so.

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    • #3
      Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

      Originally posted by BeeTL View Post
      I may change my mind, but in the mean-time, what's the best 3-4" full-range performer in a .25 ft^3 sealed or ported box?
      That box is big for a lot of 3-4" drivers. Most seem to fit into 3-5ltr cabs.

      What's your budget, and idea of 'beauty'?

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      • #4
        Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

        Maybe the new Seas?

        http://www.seas.no/index.php?option=...ers&Itemid=269
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        • #5
          Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

          Originally posted by BeeTL View Post
          I have a project idea that could be fun, kind of a variation on the powered lunchbox theme.

          Basically, a little powered TV/monitor stand with an integrated lazy-susan.

          As much as I want to like the Aura NS3, the pincushion frame feels like a deal-killer, at least for now.

          I may change my mind, but in the mean-time, what's the best 3-4" full-range performer in a .25 ft^3 sealed or ported box?

          With a little coaxing I could be persuaded go with a two-way bookshelf design like the OS.

          Clean frames and/or beauty/style points are a plus.


          You don't HAVE to let the pincusion frame be ugly.
          This is the Dayton ND105. Beauty.
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          • #6
            Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

            Originally posted by Whitneyville1 View Post
            How does the RS-100 (4 or 8) strike you? It can be used full-range although most people say some contouring network makes it sound better over-all. The Tang-Band W4-656SC 4" shielded is on sale for $19 and either one of the Nuance buy-out $2.50 tweeters could handle the top end on the cheap. Last option I see is the Tang-Band W4-1052SDF. With either 4" T-B full-range, you'll lose some above 15-17KHz but they're pretty smooth otherwise, and in the right ported enclosure, might get into the 50's. Both are in the high 80's efficiency-wise and handle about 20 watts RMS/40 peak. I like the Nuance TW5-073LR buy-out because it can cross a little lower than it's brother.
            Side way jump is go to Zaph Audio and look at his 4" Bargain Mini's 2-ways using the MCM #55-3853 cast frame 4" and the Madisound Aurasound NT-1-204-8D titanium dome tweeter. The tweeter has jumped from $9 to $15.90 each (neo prices) but the XO part list isn't extensive or expensive and you just have to see how he hammered the FR of these bargain drivers together. Imagine really great sounding Minimus 77's for $85 a pair or so.
            Good ideas.
            Originally posted by jonasz View Post
            Nice.


            Originally posted by Wolf View Post
            That box is big for a lot of 3-4" drivers. Most seem to fit into 3-5ltr cabs.

            What's your budget, and idea of 'beauty'?

            Later,
            Wolf
            Imagine the box as an AV receiver-sized-speaker-cabinet on a lazy susan.

            Less expensive is better, but those Seas might not be out of the question.

            Beauty = cosmetically nice frame for exterior mount without a grill.
            Originally posted by Chris Roemer View Post
            You don't HAVE to let the pincusion frame be ugly.
            This is the Dayton ND105. Beauty.
            Interesting...those are GORGEOUS!

            How exactly did you do that?
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            • #7
              Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

              I like the look of these:http://www.markaudio.com/

              I've got a pair of alpair10s that I am finishing the enclosures on now. Very nicely built driver. Accurate factory numbers, solid design.
              https://www.facebook.com/Mosaic-Audi...7373763888294/

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              • #8
                Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

                Markaudio definitely fits the bill.

                I had forgotten about those.

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                • #9
                  Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

                  Here's your best value.

                  http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=EL70
                  I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
                  OS MTMs http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=220388
                  Swope TM http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=221818
                  Econowave and Audio Nirvana AN10 fullrange http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=216841
                  Imperial Russian Stouts http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...=1#post1840444
                  LECBOS. http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...ghlight=lecbos

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                  • #10
                    Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

                    How about getting something that can reproduce decent low mids at volume? Yeah, it's bigger than the 3-4" full range, but they'll fit in your .25cf sealed, and won't take gobs of power to project some SPL.



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                    • #11
                      Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

                      Originally posted by fastbike1 View Post
                      +1

                      They go down into the 40s. They'll measure relatively flat to boot with no crossover.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

                        Originally posted by jonasz View Post
                        It appears to me that the 4 ohmer is smoother...
                        http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...-4-full-range/

                        Later,
                        Wolf
                        "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                        "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                        "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                        "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                        *InDIYana event website*

                        Photobucket pages:
                        https://app.photobucket.com/u/wolf_teeth_speaker

                        My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
                        http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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                        • #13
                          Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

                          How about getting something that can reproduce decent low mids at volume? Yeah, it's bigger than the 3-4" full range, but they'll fit in your .25cf sealed, and won't take gobs of power to project some SPL.



                          I am with Pete on this one. I love the look of these drivers and I will eventually order a set when I get around to it. Has anyone used them in a design yet?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

                            Originally posted by Woodfiend View Post
                            I am with Pete on this one. I love the look of these drivers and I will eventually order a set when I get around to it. Has anyone used them in a design yet?
                            Not with the 6.5" but yes with the 8" version.

                            http://speakerdesignworks.com/Singularity_2.html
                            People hear with their eyes.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Best value full-range that isn't ugly?

                              Maybe: Parc Audio-DCU-F131W


                              http://dream-creation.jp/

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