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    Any tips on how to beat down those 80Hz and higher peaks down a bit? Will post akabak results when I actually come up with a layout for this 6cuft behemoth.

    If I get a decent result and progressed viability, I'm going to build two of these for home theater use.

    Note, Eg=50V












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    Re: First try at a simple tapped horn in hresp/akabak

    Originally posted by Sidi View Post
    Any tips on how to beat down those 80Hz and higher peaks down a bit? Will post akabak results when I actually come up with a layout for this 6cuft behemoth.
    Go larger, a lot larger. A 6 cu ft bass horn isn't a behemoth, it's a midget. For a 20Hz horn 16 cu ft is about the minimum for a result that makes the added complexity of the horn worthwhile.
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      Re: First try at a simple tapped horn in hresp/akabak

      getting larger seems to end up just more and more variance in my passband. very high Q peaks.

      I did note this is a TH not a front loaded horn though, yes? Perhaps I'll take a look at a standard horn too.

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        Re: First try at a simple tapped horn in hresp/akabak

        Originally posted by Sidi View Post
        getting larger seems to end up just more and more variance in my passband. very high Q peaks.

        I did note this is a TH not a front loaded horn though, yes? Perhaps I'll take a look at a standard horn too.
        THs aren't as easy as some make them out to be, and not all drivers will work well in them. Most THs I see aren't sufficiently better than VBs to be worthwhile. Tom Danley hasn't yet heard footsteps coming up behind him.
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          Re: First try at a simple tapped horn in hresp/akabak

          We all have to start somewhere :D

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            Re: First try at a simple tapped horn in hresp/akabak

            My tapped horn experiments in Hornresp usually start out with a 1:3 expansion, with S0 (narrow end cross section area) being equal to 1/2 Sd (piston area of driver), and SL (mouth cross section area) being 3 times that. From there, you can vary the length of the horn, S0, and SL to modify the behavior of the horn to suit the particular driver. You don't want a throat that is less than 1/4 Sd. The 1:3 flare rate is appropriate for most sub-bass use. Remember that the tapped horn is a narrow bandwidth device; it begins to sound strange in the upper midbass. The best drivers for tapped horns, as noted by Tom Danley, are more similar to the drivers used in car subwoofers - high mass cones with large, high-strength motors and low-to-mid Qts, on long-excursion suspensions.
            Best Regards,

            Rory Buszka

            Taterworks Audio

            "The work of the individual still remains the spark which moves mankind ahead, even more than teamwork." - Igor I. Sikorsky

            If it works, but you don't know why it works, then you haven't done any engineering.

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              Re: First try at a simple tapped horn in hresp/akabak

              My tapped horn experiments in Hornresp usually start out with a 1:3 expansion, with S0 (narrow end cross section area) being equal to 1/2 Sd (piston area of driver), and SL (mouth cross section area) being 3 times that. From there, you can vary the length of the horn, S0, and SL to modify the behavior of the horn to suit the particular driver. You don't want a throat that is less than 1/4 Sd. The 1:3 flare rate is appropriate for most sub-bass use. Remember that the tapped horn is a narrow bandwidth device -- it begins to sound strange in the upper midbass.
              Best Regards,

              Rory Buszka

              Taterworks Audio

              "The work of the individual still remains the spark which moves mankind ahead, even more than teamwork." - Igor I. Sikorsky

              If it works, but you don't know why it works, then you haven't done any engineering.

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                Re: First try at a simple tapped horn in hresp/akabak

                Originally posted by Taterworks View Post
                The best drivers for tapped horns, as noted by Tom Danley, are more similar to the drivers used in car subwoofers - high mass cones with large, high-strength motors and low-to-mid Qts, on long-excursion suspensions.
                What a coincidence, that is exactly what this is. :D

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