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  • If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

    Nothing else to do this snowy, wintry day so I fired up the ol' Frontpage and got my a$$ in gear.



    Sorry for the delay. I am also working on part four, which will be the last segment featuring any modeling. Part five will just use prior models to demonstrate Xmax, amplifier output, and the like.
    Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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    Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

    Very helpful for folks like me. Free software often has less than stellar "help" files, if any. This forum is where I would expect to find more of this type thing than I do.

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    • #3
      Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

      Just read through your tutorial and found it nicely organized and clearly documented. This is something I expect to read again and point my friends to as primer for sub design. Thanks for making this available to the forum.
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        Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

        A lot of interest here. Nice job! Very helpful identifying which driver parameters to enter and in what order.

        This program is somewhat daunting for beginners and your tutorials cleared even more things up for me. May even try to design some stuff now. Thank you for doing this as well as helping me out on my thread.

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        • #5
          Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

          One thing that would be helpful to total newbies like myself is to add a design example that you would recommend between WinISD's choice and the extreme EBS shelf for the Dayton 8 DVC. Just to get a feel for what would be best for this particular drivers capabilities.

          Also, what is difficult for me is knowing how much power a driver can take in a particular vented box before farting out. Clicking through WinISD graphs doesn't make this clear. Also, none of the on-line help I have read explains this very well either.

          EDIT: oops. You do mention you will be getting to this... My bad.

          Hoping to not offend. Just started reading these tutorials yesterday and your style of writing this up is by far the most easy to grasp. I am coming from a standpoint of knowing little just a couple days ago so thinking these suggestions may be helpful.

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            Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

            EDIT: Deleted
            Last edited by OlderMongrel; 12-28-2012, 03:30 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

              *Edited to not get into a pointless tit for tat*

              Enjoy the writeup - if you are not a WinISD fan, please look elsewhere.
              Last edited by johnnyrichards; 12-28-2012, 01:26 AM.
              Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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              • #8
                Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

                Thanks Johnny your work is appreciated. I need to learn all I can!

                David

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                  Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

                  Thanks much! Much appreciated!

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                  • #10
                    Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

                    Some day I'll get back to the passive version of my Speaker Designer program, and it would be nice to have tutorials like this to support it. The Passive version is going to be free, and I'd like to be able to leverage community contributions for both the passive and active versions. Both programs include the box model (using the same Benson model as WBCD), a baffle model (ray tracing), driver import and editing tools (including phase extraction and physical offsets), and EQ/Amp module and a crossover designer. The active version provides active crossovers and includes real-time control of DSP hardware, whereas the passive version uses a circuit-oriented user interface for designing the crossover. I'm not satisfied with the user interface for the passive crossover designer, but it the calculations work fine, and the user interface can evolve. Eventually I would like to add a room or car response model to both versions of the program.

                    Anyway, if you want to contribute some tutorials for this program, I'd be happy to integrate them into the menu system. Right now my focus is on the active version of the program, so the passive version has slipped behind. But I'll get back to it. I keep trying to rotate between embedded code development (for the DSP control), hardware development (got a new interesting amp in development) and PC software (these two programs) so I won't get burned out on any one type of development. The PC software is scheduled for another push real soon.

                    Anyway, take a look at the passive program in its current state and tell me if you interested in collaborating on it. The link is always at:


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                    Free Passive Speaker Designer Lite (PSD-Lite) -- http://www.audiodevelopers.com/Softw...Lite/setup.exe

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                    • #11
                      Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

                      Great work Johnny!
                      Careful attention to all the little things that can hang you up, and fantastic
                      writeups of alternative alignments.
                      This is probably on your todo list, but maybe you could mention how each alignment
                      would respond to power/Hz and Xmax considerations.

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                      • #12
                        Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

                        nice john. damn neil, two busy guys.
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                        • #13
                          Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

                          Thanks for your efforts Johnny , I'm interested and your post is timely for me since I just recently bought the DATS program.

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                            Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

                            Great work! For me, I've been using WinISD since I came here. Always nice to have these write-ups because I always learn something new and useful. Makes it easier to get through to the end-result and be able to use more information.


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                              Re: If there is any interest, I finally finished part 3of my WinISD tutorial.

                              Hi Johnny,

                              I noticed this statement on your tutorial page:

                              Originally posted by WinISD Tutorial
                              Update: There is a Windows 7 version available, but I do not know where it is or anything about using it just yet.
                              FYI, the latest version, compatible with Windows 7, is here: http://www.linearteam.org/download/winisd-07x.exe

                              There are issues with some legacy programs not specifically written for Windows 7 (and I think this applies to Vista as well, but I'm not positive). Windows 7 requires elevated privileges to write files to "C:\Program Files", "C:\Program Files (x86)", and their subdirectories, so a failure will occur if a legacy app tries to, say, do a standard file write operation of a configuration file or the like, even to its own installation directory. The most recent WinISD version avoids this problem by writing its driver, project and settings files to "My Documents\WinISD\drivers", "My Documents\WinISD\projects", and "My Documents\WinISD\settings" respectively.

                              The latest version is pretty nice, and worth checking out I think.

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