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  • why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

    with all the ideas,drivers ,technology , and builds you would think there would be one speaker that does it all ( no sub stuff ).
    i've always hated the sales geek remark - "it depends on what kind of music you listen to " ,NO !,WRONG answer ! 'I've told you what I want, where is THE speaker ?
    am i looking for something that does not exist ?
    donc

  • #2
    Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

    I think the question is stil pretty subjective, don't you? What you and I think are everything can be vastly different. Without covering sub duties, what do the fulll size Statements not bring to the party?

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    • #3
      Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

      Originally posted by edgecreek View Post
      I think the question is stil pretty subjective, don't you? What you and I think are everything can be vastly different. Without covering sub duties, what do the fulll size Statements not bring to the party?
      For example, some don't like open baffle mids.

      It is a subjective question and comes down to personal preference.
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      • #4
        Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

        That's easy, there is only one speaker that does is all and I own it!!!
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        • #5
          Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

          Originally posted by donc View Post
          with all the ideas,drivers ,technology , and builds you would think there would be one speaker that does it all ( no sub stuff ).
          i've always hated the sales geek remark - "it depends on what kind of music you listen to " ,NO !,WRONG answer ! 'I've told you what I want, where is THE speaker ?
          am i looking for something that does not exist ?
          donc
          Well, it is a subjective set of circumstances of course, but I truly do believe that this one pretty much does it all, include rattle the foundation when called upon. It can render the subtlety of vocals at low volumes, and vibrate your chest when David Gilmour is wailing away during the live cut of "Money" on the Delicate Sound of Thunder.

          Of course, this happens with adequate amplification (500W/ch) and in a room that's of reasonable size (20'x20'x10'). I really think the only way to improve it might be to substitute a RAAL for the tweeter.



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          • #6
            Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

            Yeah- and my Attitudes do it for me....

            Didn't we just have this discussion?
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            • #7
              Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

              Originally posted by Face View Post
              For example, some don't like open baffle mids.
              And the room dimensions/surfaces. Talking about a speaker outside of the context of the size, shape, and configuration of the room into which it is intended to fit (especially in DIY) is a waste of time.

              There is no "it" speaker. There's only the most objectively better-performing and subjectively appealing set of compromises for a given room.
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              • #8
                Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

                Originally posted by Wolf View Post
                Yeah- and my Attitudes do it for me....

                Didn't we just have this discussion?
                Wolf
                It's a real pity those drivers are NLA. Would love to build a set of Attitudes for myself. Which brings me to the next question - will we see another reference 3 way design from you using available drivers? :D

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                • #9
                  Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

                  The OP's question begs another.... Where is THE perfect 4 door car that 'does it all'? or, THE flat screen TV or THE amplifier?

                  Any DIY'rs here who work in marketing like to chime in?
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                  • #10
                    Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

                    The problem with considering the 'perfect' speaker is that technology keeps moving forward.

                    The 'perfect speaker' from 2010 can probably be bettered by newer driver technology, so it's not really the 'perfect' speaker anymore.

                    Or is that just a lie we tell ourselves and our spouses so we can continue to build more speakers?

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                    • #11
                      Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

                      My first thought on the op's question was 'is there 1 single driver/speaker' that does it all. 1 full range driver.
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                      • #12
                        Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

                        There is not a single ANYTHING that "does it all" for everyone. Lamp, table, pen, saw, hammer, computer, seat, camera, etc. Why should (or would) speakers be any different?


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                        • #13
                          Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

                          Originally posted by donc View Post
                          am i looking for something that does not exist ?
                          No, you're not. It does exist. The problem is that

                          You don't like the way it sounds.

                          You don't like the way it looks.

                          You don't think it plays loud enough.

                          etc.

                          So you pass it by, and go on looking . . .
                          "It suggests that there is something that is happening in the real system that is not quite captured in the models."

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                          • #14
                            Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

                            What is your ideal of the perfect speaker? A do it all speaker is going to be big. Maybe even have a powered sub in the same box.

                            Haven't seen or heard these (I'd like too), but they remind me of a updated huge monkey coffin speaker. http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...idrange-3-way/

                            You could also look at the full sized statements. Linkwitz Lab has some over the top stuff. Is it worth the price? IDK.

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                            • #15
                              Re: why isn't there just one speaker that does it all ?

                              Because of our restless nature, our subjectivity and our incomplete understanding of psychoacoustics we can not settle on anything that can be tweaked or replaced. Women collect shoes and men collect, among many things, speakers!

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