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  • #31
    Here you go. I keep thinking I've posted this on my site... but I'm not finding it. Oops
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    Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Paul Carmody View Post
      Here you go. I keep thinking I've posted this on my site... but I'm not finding it. Oops

      Awesome, thank you so much! One thing to note about the parts; I believe the vifa tweeter is now technically a Peerless by Tymphany brand name, same part number though it seems.

      A few small questions: I found in the other thread the dimensions as follows; 31'' length by 6'' depth by 5 5/8'' height, but is this assuming 1/2-inch stock (as opposed to 3/4-inch stock)?

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      • #33
        Forgot to add the box model. Just added it now. Yes, I designed it for 1/2" stock. if you want to use 3/4" that shouldn't be a problem. You can increase the width and/or depth a bit to account for that.
        Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

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        • #34
          Paul you are not making my job easier.. First I thought I'd go with the OS MTM as center, then in the past few days I thought the Swope MTM as CC would be great, and now I come across this.. :-) decisions decisions.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by crossbound View Post
            Paul you are not making my job easier.. First I thought I'd go with the OS MTM as center, then in the past few days I thought the Swope MTM as CC would be great, and now I come across this.. :-) decisions decisions.

            I am facing the same decision, but with Paul's last post, I will be going with the sunflower center for perfect aesthetic matching and (from the looks and sound) superior driver and sound performance :P Only drawback is price for this center channel option but would rather get what I really want and take a bit longer to acquire all the parts!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Paul Carmody View Post
              Forgot to add the box model. Just added it now. Yes, I designed it for 1/2" stock. if you want to use 3/4" that shouldn't be a problem. You can increase the width and/or depth a bit to account for that.

              Great thanks again Paul! Will do my own build thread when my Amiga towers come through! Everyone likes pictures!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Paul Carmody View Post
                Forgot to add the box model. Just added it now. Yes, I designed it for 1/2" stock. if you want to use 3/4" that shouldn't be a problem. You can increase the width and/or depth a bit to account for that.

                Paul, I am wondering how much RMS power I can feed to this center channel speaker. I ask because I am wondering if I should turn it off when hosting a dinner/party and people tend to want to crank the volume. If they can put up with the same amount of power as my Amiga towers, I should have nothing to worry about, but if not I will change the mode on my amp to a mode which will deactivate center channel.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Evan Steeves View Post


                  Paul, I am wondering how much RMS power I can feed to this center channel speaker. I ask because I am wondering if I should turn it off when hosting a dinner/party and people tend to want to crank the volume. If they can put up with the same amount of power as my Amiga towers, I should have nothing to worry about, but if not I will change the mode on my amp to a mode which will deactivate center channel.
                  Have you built the center channel speaker.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dewmiester View Post

                    Have you built the center channel speaker.

                    Not yet, I am waiting for Black Friday sale to order all the crossover components from PE. I will probably buy the drivers locally here in Canada since there is a place that stocks them close to me and they are cheaper to buy here with the exchange and shipping (unless PE does a major discount sale next week)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Evan Steeves View Post


                      Paul, I am wondering how much RMS power I can feed to this center channel speaker. I ask because I am wondering if I should turn it off when hosting a dinner/party and people tend to want to crank the volume. If they can put up with the same amount of power as my Amiga towers, I should have nothing to worry about, but if not I will change the mode on my amp to a mode which will deactivate center channel.
                      Not Paul here, but AFAIK the first end user builder of the Sunflower CC.

                      Don't worry about it keeping up, I crank this center during movies and it keeps up with my Sunflower mains just fine (of course, only if properly bass managed, mine crosses over at 80hz).

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                      • #41
                        How are you liking the Amigas? Listening impressions?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by rvsixer View Post

                          Not Paul here, but AFAIK the first end user builder of the Sunflower CC.

                          Don't worry about it keeping up, I crank this center during movies and it keeps up with my Sunflower mains just fine (of course, only if properly bass managed, mine crosses over at 80hz).
                          Awesome, thanks for your response! Starting the crossover tomorrow, can't wait to hear this ting paired with my amiga towers

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by scornfulheal View Post
                            How are you liking the Amigas? Listening impressions?
                            Honestly they are awesome. when I first finished them, I had a friend come over and play some Coltrane and he was thoroughly impressed by the detail coming from the speakers. As for volume, last night I got a chance to really try these things while hosting my New Years party. they filled my Condo with loud, clear music quite easily. I had locked my Yamaha at 0db because I KNEW my friend would crank the system to the max after a few drinks, and I did not want to risk blowing my hand built speakers lol. For movies, they have a surprising amount of bass, and for most (non audiophiles) probably do not even need a sub. Played the opening scene of James Bond specter and was impressed. For a first-time build, I think I made the best choice for a solid all-around pair of tower speakers.

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                            • #44
                              I am considering building the sunflower center for Amigas, unfortunately, the drivers here are too expensive and therefore, the cost of the center is way too much (more than a pair of Amigas). Paul Carmody I was wondering if I can build the center with just 2 RS125 drivers instead of four, what changes would be necessary? and how would it affect the sound quality?

                              Also, is there any RS150 center that would blend with the Amigas (strangely, RS150 and RS125 are priced similarly in India)? I looked at a couple of designs by cjd, jeff bagby and the modula MTMs but the seas drivers are not available in India and the RS28 is NLA.

                              Thanks,
                              Last edited by PRS259; 03-02-2020, 08:16 AM.

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                              • Evan Steeves
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                                From my point of view, since the center speaker is the most important for home cinema, I would suggest waiting until you have the funds to build the design as-is...it was designed and tested a certain way by Paul and modifying the parameters would have undersired effects. Also, as Paul mentioned in one of his posts about this center channel, the outer RS-125 and inner RS-125 speakers have different roles, which makes this center speaker very dynamic.

                                It is a fantastic design, I have been using it in my setup for years now and really enjoying the clarity and quality it adds, especially voices and certain sounds. The nice thing about this center channel is, if I ever upgrade from my Amigas, I will still be able to use this center channel with the new setup since there is head room.

                                Another option if you want to save some money would be the C-note center channel that came out a short time ago. While not the same speakers, they use the same cone materials and the differences in timbre between cones should not be noticeable.

                            • #45
                              PRS, I sent you a PM.

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