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  • #31
    Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

    I have 8, 6 are NIB for sale.
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    • #32
      Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

      Originally posted by jhollander View Post
      Can someone comment on the review of the TN25 posted by Zaph -- specifically the HD being too high? It contradicts what other user reviews say about this tweeter. Has it improved since 2008?

      "This is a neo magnet tweeter with a rear chamber. Flow restriction between the chambers causes two impedance peaks and a dip at 500 Hz. Harmonic distortion is generally too high across the board, and there are cleaner options in the price range. Tested April 2008"

      thanx

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      • #33
        Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

        Originally posted by revelator View Post
        Can someone comment on the review of the TN25 posted by Zaph -- specifically the HD being too high? It contradicts what other user reviews say about this tweeter. Has it improved since 2008?

        "This is a neo magnet tweeter with a rear chamber. Flow restriction between the chambers causes two impedance peaks and a dip at 500 Hz. Harmonic distortion is generally too high across the board, and there are cleaner options in the price range. Tested April 2008"

        thanx
        I can't say whether the newer ones are improved or not. Distortion in Zaph's tests show it to be high compared to other low cost tweeters. Even so, it hovers just below 1% across the band which is probably at the verge of audibility. The high order stuff is what troubles me, as that usually indicates a less than stellar ability to play complex passages without undue intermodulation products. They're probably acceptable for use in small monitors that won't ever see a lot of power or high SPL.
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        • #34
          Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

          Haven't listened to many tweeters, but I will say that I have been very pleased with the seas h1280 (22tff) in the budget category I've used it twice. Looks like Splendor is now using this in many of their designs.

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          • #35
            Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

            Does anyone know balance the 22TAF compares to the 22TFF? I would assume that they use similar motor etc and so have similar strengths and weaknesses in nonlinear distortion but would likely have some differences in the CSD and FR?

            Originally posted by danf View Post
            Haven't listened to many tweeters, but I will say that I have been very pleased with the seas h1280 (22tff) in the budget category I've used it twice. Looks like Splendor is now using this in many of their designs.
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            • #36
              Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

              I can't say whether the newer ones are improved or not. Distortion in Zaph's tests show it to be high compared to other low cost tweeters. Even so, it hovers just below 1% across the band which is probably at the verge of audibility. The high order stuff is what troubles me, as that usually indicates a less than stellar ability to play complex passages without undue intermodulation products. They're probably acceptable for use in small monitors that won't ever see a lot of power or high SPL.
              They sound fantastic in my Sophomores and Jim Griffins MTM-MLTL with the NS3. I would have no qualms about using them again.
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              • #37
                Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

                Well in the 40-100 price range:
                https://www.parts-express.com/morel-...eeter--277-082

                I have used it in many 3-way systems and easy to integrate good power response.

                In high dollar not available but love the sound is Dynaudio Esotar T330 too bad you can't get them any more except on ebay.

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                • #38
                  Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

                  I really like the SB Acoustics SB29RDCN (dimple dome) for 50-100.

                  Have never heard a 100+ tweeter...
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                  • #39
                    Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

                    Originally posted by ckmoore View Post
                    I really like the SB Acoustics SB29RDCN (dimple dome)
                    The SB dimple/ ring radiators get great reviews; what is the difference in sound quality between the (great value)SB29RDC and Satori tweet? price difference is quite wide

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                    • #40
                      Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

                      I'm had good success with Hiquphon OWI-Fs tweeters. They seem a bit pricey at first but come in matched pairs, response is quite flat, and can be crossed over fairly low with care.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

                        Anyone tried the TransducerLabs Beryllium ?

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                        • #42
                          Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

                          Originally posted by bill poster View Post
                          Anyone tried the TransducerLabs Beryllium ?
                          not yet available.
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                          • #43
                            Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

                            Originally posted by Wolf View Post
                            Under $40:
                            Vifa DX25
                            Vifa XT25TG30
                            Vifa XT25SC90 (or -50)
                            Beston RT003C
                            HiVi TN25
                            Dayton ND28
                            Vifa OX20
                            TB 28-537
                            Vifa XT19
                            Vifa NE19VTS
                            Seas 22TAFC/G

                            $40-100:
                            HiVi RT1.3 (why is this on clearance?)
                            HiVi RT1C-A
                            Dayton RS28A
                            Usher 9950
                            Fountek NeoCD1.0
                            TB 25-1743S (some places at $109)
                            Wavecor TW030
                            Seas 27TFFC

                            $100+:
                            Hiquphon OW3
                            Seas Millenium
                            AC G2Si
                            Visaton MHT12
                            Morel MDT33 (NLA)
                            SS D2905/9700
                            AC AST2560-dipolar
                            SS D3004/6600
                            Satori
                            Transducer Labs N26C-A
                            LCY 110
                            Seas T25-001 (NLA)
                            CSS LD25X (soon to be NLA)

                            That I've experienced, these were in the upper areas of the price ranges, and I've not heard enough from RAAL to really be sure how I think yet about them.
                            Later,
                            Wolf
                            I know, I know - old thread. But, intriguing!

                            Hey Wolf,

                            Are these in any particular order? Would you mind rearranging best to worst in each category (sub $40 in particular)? Any that you would change/add/remove almost a year later? Thanks!

                            It's understood that application plays a part - could you rate them based purely on sonic quality, assuming its used in its optimal range...?
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                            • #44
                              Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

                              I'm not gonna pretend I've had a quarter as much experience with these tweeters as some of the regulars here on tech-talk, but here are some of the drivers on my "short-list" -

                              Smallish Budget

                              Vifa NE19VTA-04
                              Vifa NE25VTA-04
                              Seas 22TAF/G
                              SB-Acoustics SB26ADC
                              Usher 9950-20
                              KAXBLTWT (*group buy tweeter - very similar to the LD25X)
                              CSS LD22


                              Mediumish Budget

                              BG Neo3
                              Tang Band 25-1743S
                              CDX1-1425
                              SB TW29R Satori
                              BMS 4550
                              CSS Planar 2

                              Mortgage Budget

                              Radian 475BePB
                              RAAL 70-10D (i have the pleasure of listening to this beauty whenever I want. Wouldn't trade it for the world.)
                              RAAL 70-20XR
                              Seas Excel T29B001
                              Anything from Transducer Lab.
                              Beyma TPL-150H
                              TAD 2002
                              Scanspeak 6640
                              Scan Speak, R2904 (only to try for use with a waveguide due to the phase plug)
                              :blues: Flat frequency response, a smooth sound power response free of resonance, careful driver-integration, and high dynamic range both upward and downward :blues:

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                              • #45
                                Re: Your favorite tweeters at different price points

                                Originally posted by scottq View Post
                                I know, I know - old thread. But, intriguing!

                                Hey Wolf,

                                Are these in any particular order? Would you mind rearranging best to worst in each category (sub $40 in particular)? Any that you would change/add/remove almost a year later? Thanks!

                                It's understood that application plays a part - could you rate them based purely on sonic quality, assuming its used in its optimal range...?
                                No particular order, and reordering them would take quite a bit of application knowing to get them in that order in particular. Kinda hard without a premise.
                                Later,
                                Wolf
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                                "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                                "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                                "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

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