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Re: Received my W6520R-4 drivers!
I haven't commented on distortion because, for one I find OmniMic distortion graph presentation not easy visually on the eye. SE's distortion measurements on Zaph's site are easier to compare. I am not sure what exactly it is, the choice of colors or something else.
Secondly it is not very easy nor very valid to comment without another one as base to compare taken under similar conditions.
That all said, it is very nice to see that 3rd and higher products don't show any tendency of increasing with frequency. This is showing that motor design was good wrt inductance modulation with current. It indicates good midrange production, less intermodulation distortion with both low and mid-high frequencies playing together.
Years back such drivers were only available with Scan-Speaks, and expensive. (Maybe some Dynaudio and some other). Closest was some of the Peerless offerings, but they only had the shorting ring on the base of the pole piece which helps with low frequency but not as much at mid and mid-high. Then Seas started with the Excel series with somewhat similar design to Scan's. Some Peerless drivers started putting copper caps in addition to rings. Later came the Usher's with very good motors. Recent years it is getting more main stream, becoming more and more available from different brands for lower price, which is good.
The technology is rather old (shorting rings, copper caps etc), going back 1970's as far as I know, as with everything else in speakers.
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Originally posted by feyz View PostCan you post an impedance plot also, to complete the information?
Here are the impedance and T/S measurements I made of the pair I used for the seminar. It is a pdf file that anyone can download.
https://app.box.com/s/30kyr7dxjgxh6ru3wk1s
Yes, it's interesting how things have developed - Scanspeak became famous with their early SD-1 motor, but as I understand they worked from a JBL patent for their "Symmetrical Field Geometry" motor that they made in the early 70's.
Jeff
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Originally posted by critofur View PostI'd like to compare this driver to the Anarchy 6.5. When can I get one for testing?
However, this seems like an odd comparison. It's not really designed to be like the Anarchy woofer, it's more a widerange midbass.
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Originally posted by Jeff B. View Post...However, this seems like an odd comparison. It's not really designed to be like the Anarchy woofer, it's more a widerange midbass.
When you say "designed" do you mean the designer's intention, or how it actually functions? I tend to ignore what the purpose of things is "supposed" to be and rather, use things as makes sense from my own, perhaps strange, perspective..."...this is not a subwoofer" - Jeff Bagby ;)
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Originally posted by critofur View PostDo you mean it's not a good choice for use in a 2-way system? It's got a low enough FS, perhaps I've missed it, but I haven't seen X-max yet? So I suppose the point of my comparison would be to see if it can even come close in terms of bass output while also giving me a little more extended high end? If it's really only suitable as a midrange, then I have to wonder why the top isn't a bit smoother...
When you say "designed" do you mean the designer's intention, or how it actually functions? I tend to ignore what the purpose of things is "supposed" to be and rather, use things as makes sense from my own, perhaps strange, perspective...
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Originally posted by Jeff B. View PostThe Eclipse driver sounds fantastic in a two-way - ask anyone who was at the seminar. I believe it has an Xmax of 6mm. It has less low bass output than the Anarchy, which I consider more of a woofer than a midbass. The Eclipse has higher actual sensitivity and in my opinion better midrange potential, but it won't move as much air at 30Hz, that's for sure. If it were me, building a two-way for myself, I would take the Eclipse hands down, at least right now I would. I guess I need to design with the Anarchy to be sure, and I could easily compare head to head if needed. I would compare the Eclipse more with and Usher or Scanspeak midbass.Craig
I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol.
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Originally posted by PWR RYD View PostBut don't Usher and Scanspeak midbass drivers cost much more than this $70 driver??? ;)
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Originally posted by bkeane1259 View PostMine are at the house of Roman ;)
EDIT: Full test results forthcoming, but they won't be published here. I might link back to the Meniscus forum if anyone's interested.
Roman sent some screen shots from his initial testing of my drivers. There will be more on this Meniscus thread eventually. JR kicked things off --- http://www.diyspeakerforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=379Bryan K.
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Originally posted by PWR RYD View PostBut don't Usher and Scanspeak midbass drivers cost much more than this $70 driver??? ;)
They seem like a very good driver overall and I am anxious to see some designs with them. Not my cup o' tea methinks, but there will be some great designs with it for sure and most importantly it is great to see an american player in the game..
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