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  • Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

    I am very curious about the Aura NT1 as it seems to have outstanding distortion
    performance above 3 KHz, the similar Dayton is not as good. The NT1 is out of
    production and Brian Steele generously sent me some good and blown ones.
    So I am curious to see if there is anything different in the motor geometry
    between the two. I've removed the domes, and ferro fluid, now I want to use
    a band saw to cut them in half and take a look.

    Are there any hazards to the dust from a NEO magnet or anything else in there?
    I will wear a mask.

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    Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

    I doubt the shards of neo will become airborne. Even when being sawn, the neo will retain its magnetism and will probably stick in the gap and be difficult to clean out effectively. You won't want to breathe NdFeB dust (powder), but you probably won't. As another note, once you cut through, the two halves will want to clamp together, so be careful about that.

    This will probably void your warranty, just FYI.
    Best Regards,

    Rory Buszka
    Product Manager, Dayton Audio

    The best way to predict the future is to create it.

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    • #3
      Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

      Thanks, I'll be calling with pictures about my defective tweeters as soon as I'm done cutting!

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      • #4
        Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

        Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
        This will probably void your warranty, just FYI.
        I laughed at this one. :D

        Should be a fun project! What are you using to cut them in half?

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        • #5
          Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

          Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
          This will probably void your warranty, just FYI.
          Well that's not really fair, now is it?

          --
          "Based on my library and laboratory research, I have concluded, as have others, that the best measures of speaker quality are frequency response and dispersion pattern. I have not found any credible research showing that most of the differences we hear among loudspeakers cannot be explained by examining these two variables." -Alvin Foster, 22 BAS Speaker 2 (May, 1999)

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          • #6
            Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

            Originally posted by Adam_G View Post
            I laughed at this one. :D

            Should be a fun project! What are you using to cut them in half?
            I have my dad's old bandsaw but I think it has a wood band on it not sure if
            he has one for metal. Dremel cut off wheel?
            Any suggestions?

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            • #7
              Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

              I wonder if there is some way to demagnetize the motor, at least mostly. Maybe some variation of the old mechanic's trick of magnetizing a screwdriver with a piece of insulated wire and a car battery. Might make things easier. Heat would do it, but you might not have much left to reverse engineer. :eek:

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                Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

                Originally posted by Pete Basel View Post
                I have my dad's old bandsaw but I think it has a wood band on it not sure if
                he has one for metal. Dremel cut off wheel?
                Any suggestions?
                here's some food for thought

                mount it in a board thick enought to keep the back of the motor below the surface of the board, (mounting the tweeter may help keep the cut halves from trying to close the saw cut gap, or make it easier to contol while cutting than other ways described here.)

                make the board big enough so that you can clamp the board to your bench with the ns1 end away from the bench far enough to be cut with a jig/saw.

                clamp the board with tweeter motor up so that you have flat suface for the jig saw foot to ride on.

                cut with jig saw, etc...

                dremel might throw off a lot of dust

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                • #9
                  Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

                  18 TPI sounds low not sure if they make a 24 or higher:
                  An advanced laser-cutting machine cuts each Vermont American band saw blade to exacting specifications. We employ a unique micro view inspection system to ensure consistently high quality.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

                    Your blade speed is way higher than ideal for metal cutting (wood cutting bandsaw), so fewer teeth are in order.
                    10-12 might even be appropriate for a small tweeter like that.
                    If the saw was operating at typical metal cutting speed then more teeth would generally be in order.
                    18 will probably work ok, tho. It should leave a good finish on all but the dome.

                    Might want to house that little thing in a jig or something. Hate to hear about injuries...
                    ~99%
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                    • #11
                      Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

                      It is a small Delta benchtop bandsaw but I'm pretty sure it says it will do metal.
                      I'm not going to try to use it if it not intended for metal - no point. And yes, I'm
                      going to take precautions to hold it in a jig.
                      Thanks for the tips.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

                        Originally posted by Liberator of Magic Smoke View Post
                        I wonder if there is some way to demagnetize the motor, at least mostly. Maybe some variation of the old mechanic's trick of magnetizing a screwdriver with a piece of insulated wire and a car battery. Might make things easier. Heat would do it, but you might not have much left to reverse engineer. :eek:
                        I know heat will demagnetize them. How much heat would be the question.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

                          Pretty sure it's for wood, unless it's really old.
                          It will have a gear box and a method to change speeds if it was designed for metal and wood.
                          Either way, for a one off use it should do fine on that little bit of metal. Blade life will be a little short but so what.


                          Originally posted by Pete Basel View Post
                          It is a small Delta benchtop bandsaw but I'm pretty sure it says it will do metal.
                          I'm not going to try to use it if it not intended for metal - no point. And yes, I'm
                          going to take precautions to hold it in a jig.
                          Thanks for the tips.
                          ~99%
                          Make me an angel that flies from Montgomery
                          Make me a poster of an old rodeo
                          Just give me one thing that I can hold on to
                          To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go

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                          • #14
                            Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

                            Try putting it in a vise (leave the half you want to cut off sticking UP) and use a fine bi-metal hacksaw.
                            "...this is not a subwoofer" - Jeff Bagby ;)

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                            • #15
                              Re: Cutting Tweeters in Half - Any Hazards From NEO material?

                              That was my backup plan, I do have a hacksaw ... Thanks!

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