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  • My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

    Here's my version of the Sure IRS2092 amp, available on PE for $58.00. With no signal input, it is absolutely quiet, without any hum, hiss or buzz. The amp sounds very clean, with good bass and no sibilance in the high end. For testing, I used a variety of well recorded sources such as flac music, and CDs through a Marantz CD player and an Emotiva XD-2 DAC/preamp. As far as power is concerned, I can crank it up as loud as I want to without any sign of strain or clipping, as both my Sonarias and Renditions are 4ohm speakers.

    The case is from Par-Metal ($87) and measures 16X16X5. The toroid is an Antek ($80) with 600VA, dual secondaries of 40V. The soft start ($20) and speaker protection modules ($12) are both eBay items. Powering up is smooth and drama free due to the soft start.

    The power supply is scratch built, modeled after the TI Application paper on PSU design. I used 25A/600V bridge rectifiers, one for each channel. The caps are each 8,200uF/100V, so each channel is supplied by 32,800uF, or 65,600uF for both channels. Bleeders are 1.8KOhms/5W, and take the power supply from 56VDC to zero in about 40 seconds.

    I also added a regulated 12V DC power supply for the fan and front panel LED, using a 1A bridge rectifier and a LM7812 voltage regulator. For my next build, I will probably incorporate this onto the PSU to make things neater.

    The total cost, less than $300, the satisfaction, priceless. Overall, great learning experience because almost everything was new to me. The members of this forum were so helpful when I needed the assistance, so thanks everyone.

    Hong
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    The Chorales - Usher 8945A/Vifa XT25TG Build
    ESP Project 101 Lateral MOSFET Amplifier
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    Sonata Soundbar Project
    The Renditions - Active/Passive Towers

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    Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

    Here are more pics of the finished amp:
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    Some people are addicted to Vicodin. I'm addicted to speaker building.

    The Chorales - Usher 8945A/Vifa XT25TG Build
    ESP Project 101 Lateral MOSFET Amplifier
    LM4780 Parallel Chipamp
    Sonata Soundbar Project
    The Renditions - Active/Passive Towers

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      Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

      Very cool! Nicely done layout and your dead quiet background is a testament to your thoroughness.
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        Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

        Very nice job. Well done!
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        • #5
          Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

          Sweet! I hope to do the same pretty soon.

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            Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

            I might be building a second one. Nice job. Will you post a link to the caps.
            " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

            Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
            Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

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            http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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            • #7
              Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

              Thanks for the nice comments everyone.

              arlis, the caps are from Apex Jr., so just shoot Steve Slater an email.

              Hong
              Some people are addicted to Vicodin. I'm addicted to speaker building.

              The Chorales - Usher 8945A/Vifa XT25TG Build
              ESP Project 101 Lateral MOSFET Amplifier
              LM4780 Parallel Chipamp
              Sonata Soundbar Project
              The Renditions - Active/Passive Towers

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              • #8
                Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

                Nice Hong! I'm going to have to check that out sometime. I'd it true you can't feed the inputs with a preamp though? If I were to make one of these in the future, I'd like to use my tube preamp.
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                • #9
                  Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

                  Hong,

                  Love the clean layout - very nice. I saw your other post about the soft-start module. Can you post a link to that module?

                  Thanks!

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                    Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

                    A couple of things about this amp's documentation or lack thereof that I find untrue:

                    1. It is rated at 250W X 2 at 8ohm. There is no 4ohm rating, but I have been driving the amp very hard with 4ohm loads without clipping. And I mean ear-drum-busting , wife-running-out-of-the-house-screaming levels. I don't think the heat sink got above 140F.

                    2. I have used it with both my Emo XD-2 DAC/preamp and my tube preamp without problems, so I have no idea why the documentation recommends against a preamp. May be Sure wants us to buy their volume control units, but I'm driving the amp with preamps.

                    Thanks.

                    Originally posted by jsr View Post
                    Nice Hong! I'm going to have to check that out sometime. I'd it true you can't feed the inputs with a preamp though? If I were to make one of these in the future, I'd like to use my tube preamp.
                    Thanks.
                    Some people are addicted to Vicodin. I'm addicted to speaker building.

                    The Chorales - Usher 8945A/Vifa XT25TG Build
                    ESP Project 101 Lateral MOSFET Amplifier
                    LM4780 Parallel Chipamp
                    Sonata Soundbar Project
                    The Renditions - Active/Passive Towers

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                    • #11
                      Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

                      Just search eBay for "Power Soft Start", it's the one with the red PCB. Please note that this module controls the flow of the main current, so your power switch needs to be connected to this module. It must also be a momentary switch or tact switch to work properly. This is how my amp was connected:

                      Main power --> IEC receptacle --> Fuse --> Soft Start --> Transformer, so the tact swith, connected to the module, powers up the whole amp.

                      Originally posted by marscoast View Post
                      Hong,

                      Love the clean layout - very nice. I saw your other post about the soft-start module. Can you post a link to that module?

                      Thanks!
                      Some people are addicted to Vicodin. I'm addicted to speaker building.

                      The Chorales - Usher 8945A/Vifa XT25TG Build
                      ESP Project 101 Lateral MOSFET Amplifier
                      LM4780 Parallel Chipamp
                      Sonata Soundbar Project
                      The Renditions - Active/Passive Towers

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                      • #12
                        Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

                        Could you share the schematic and parts list and a pic of the bottom either here or via email with me?
                        " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                        Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                        Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                        http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                        http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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                        • #13
                          Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

                          Originally posted by hongrn View Post
                          A couple of things about this amp's documentation or lack thereof that I find untrue:

                          1. It is rated at 250W X 2 at 8ohm. There is no 4ohm rating, but I have been driving the amp very hard with 4ohm loads without clipping. And I mean ear-drum-busting , wife-running-out-of-the-house-screaming levels. I don't think the heat sink got above 140F.
                          The amp is based on International Rectifier's AMP7S design, which is scalable with tradeoffs that can be made for supply voltage and power output and load. The Sure amp is closest to the Amp7S-200, but different values have been selected for the OVP, UVP and current trip levels. You can use the following table to help you figure out how far you can "push" the amp with a given power supply. A word of warning, tho.... Sure has been known to change components in their products, so your amp may not be the same as mine. The values in the column on the right were from an amp I bought over a year ago, and the components in current-production amps may not be the same.

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                          • #14
                            Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

                            Here's the bottom view of the PSU, and the schematic with the passive component types and their values. For the reservoir caps, you can use larger values if you like, I just happen to have a bunch of 8,200uF/100V caps. There are many calculators online that you can use to calculate the needed capacitance (Charlie Laub has one on his site), but 64,000uF seem to be adequate for this amp.

                            Hong

                            Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                            Could you share the schematic and parts list and a pic of the bottom either here or via email with me?
                            Attached Files
                            Some people are addicted to Vicodin. I'm addicted to speaker building.

                            The Chorales - Usher 8945A/Vifa XT25TG Build
                            ESP Project 101 Lateral MOSFET Amplifier
                            LM4780 Parallel Chipamp
                            Sonata Soundbar Project
                            The Renditions - Active/Passive Towers

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                              Re: My Sure IRS2092 Amplifier Build

                              Thanks.
                              " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                              Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                              Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                              http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                              http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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