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    "Burn n' Die" Build

    Working on a new two way for the living room, something with WAF approval and would not need a subwoofer. Wanted to use one of the HiVi D-series drivers but I also considered other brands. e-speakers had a sale on the HiVi D8.8 for $75 a pair and could not pass up the deal. Using Unibox, I came up with a 40L box tuned to 32 Hz with an f3 of 28 Hz. The inside dimensions of the box are 11" X 17.25" X 15" with a 1" X 10.5-8" X 13" slot port. The hard part now was trying to find a tweeter that will work well with a true 8" woofer. Looked over the forum and came across "The Fatbelly's" using the ScanSpeak Discovery D2604 as a tweeter. After asking around about other tweeters, I still came back to the D2604, the price is right for my build, and after all the testing that Dave did, it just reassured my decision. Now for some pictures.....

    Front Face





    Template for making both curved sides symetrical





    Parts Trimmed



    First one assembled



    The two finished and size comparisons



    Now that I had the boxes some what put together, decided to see what the wife thought and I think the woman's face on the tv explains it all.



    I am going to finish this build to take to Iowa in the fall but once Dave finishes his waveguides, I have a feeling that a MLTL will be in order or I might do some mtm's with the new RS paper drivers. Look for measurements coming in the future and crossover work too.
    If we all reacted the same way, we'd be predictable, and there's always more than one way to view a situation.
    What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple: Overspecialize, and you breed in weakness.
    It's slow death.

    //Burn n' Die//Dream Weaver//Maximus//ABC Bookshelf Speakers//Dayton Twin Towers
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  • #2
    Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

    Am I reading this correctly:"HiVi D8.8 for $75 a pair"? How did you snag a deal like that? When was this? E-Speakers does not have anything on their website like that right now.
    “I cried because I had no shoes until I met a man who had no feet”

    If we all did the things we are capable of doing, we would literally ASTOUND ourselves - Thomas A. Edison

    Some people collect stamps, Imelda Marcos collected shoes. I collect speakers.:D

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    • #3
      Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

      Nice! I like your choice of parts too. When you get a minute, I'd like to see your XO's.
      With a pistol, whip and chair, I'm beating my DS-135 MT's into submission. Though similar in the basics, they sound so very different from our beloved late Lou C.'s GarnetII's (which have become my "near-field" computer monitors).

      I'd like to have the spare change to "design" an MTM around the new RS-180P-4's and choices of tweeters, also.

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      • #4
        Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

        Can't tell for sure, but is that a "Mona Lisa smile"?

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        • #5
          Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

          Originally posted by thekorvers View Post
          Am I reading this correctly:"HiVi D8.8 for $75 a pair"? How did you snag a deal like that? When was this? E-Speakers does not have anything on their website like that right now.
          Yep, last fall they had them on sale, I am guessing some buyout deal.
          If we all reacted the same way, we'd be predictable, and there's always more than one way to view a situation.
          What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple: Overspecialize, and you breed in weakness.
          It's slow death.

          //Burn n' Die//Dream Weaver//Maximus//ABC Bookshelf Speakers//Dayton Twin Towers

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          • #6
            Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

            Looking nice so far. If it's not too late, I suggest bifurcating that slot port at the bottom. I initially designed a similar slot port arrangement like that for my Blastoramas, but it didn't "look right" and I was afraid of the bottom panel warping towards the front and making it look worse, so I bifurcated it. I'm very happy with the results.
            Brian Steele
            www.diysubwoofers.org

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            • #7
              Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

              No need though.

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              • #8
                Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

                Looks like they have the D5.8 on sale right now for $69/pair

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                • #9
                  Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

                  The lady on Dr. Phil doesn't seem to happy, but I like them.
                  John H

                  Synergy Horn, SLS-85, BMR-3L, Mini-TL, BR-2, Titan OB, B452, Udique, Vultus, Latus1, Seriatim, Aperivox,Pencil Tower

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                  • #10
                    Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

                    Originally posted by jhollander View Post
                    The lady on Dr. Phil doesn't seem to happy, but I like them.
                    You are right, that is where the name came from. I asked the wife what I should call them and she said, "Burn and die" so that is what they will be until a proper name is decided. Who knows, maybe she will let me place them in the living room when they are completely finished.
                    If we all reacted the same way, we'd be predictable, and there's always more than one way to view a situation.
                    What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple: Overspecialize, and you breed in weakness.
                    It's slow death.

                    //Burn n' Die//Dream Weaver//Maximus//ABC Bookshelf Speakers//Dayton Twin Towers

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                    • #11
                      Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

                      Originally posted by Thumper Tom View Post
                      You are right, that is where the name came from. I asked the wife what I should call them and she said, "Burn and die" so that is what they will be until a proper name is decided. Who knows, maybe she will let me place them in the living room when they are completely finished.
                      Just paint it black. It's slimming. She won't even see it.

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                      • #12
                        Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

                        Tom,
                        You are going to LOVE that woofer. I was so upset when the price on them went from $90/ea to $200/ea because of the neo jump. I thought I really found a diamond in the rough. I think at $200 they are still a good driver, but not an exceptional value. I cannot believe you got them so cheap! I am looking forward to this build....I know the end result you are heading tword and it is good....very good.

                        The fatbellies were the result of a small 2-way usig the D5. It is taking everything I have not to get a pair of the D5's.......

                        Edit: I could not resist knowing thei performance.... I just bought two pair. Someone please help me!!!!!!!!!! :( but really :o nah....I'm all :D
                        .

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                        • #13
                          Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

                          Originally posted by mzisserson View Post
                          Tom,
                          You are going to LOVE that woofer. I was so upset when the price on them went from $90/ea to $200/ea because of the neo jump. I thought I really found a diamond in the rough. I think at $200 they are still a good driver, but not an exceptional value. I cannot believe you got them so cheap! I am looking forward to this build....I know the end result you are heading tword and it is good....very good.

                          The fatbellies were the result of a small 2-way usig the D5. It is taking everything I have not to get a pair of the D5's.......

                          Edit: I could not resist knowing thei performance.... I just bought two pair. Someone please help me!!!!!!!!!! :( but really :o nah....I'm all :D
                          Could you point me to measurements of the d5?

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                          • #14
                            Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

                            Originally posted by Sidi View Post
                            Could you point me to measurements of the d5?
                            Here's the MFG data. Mine measured fairly close, however it is on my archive hard drive and do not feel like digging it out. They are more of a woofer than midbass. I crossed them to a Scan D2905/93000 at 2.5K. I would not use them too much higher.... They may be......."Underwhelming"...... ;)

                            Not Found (#404)
                            http://www.swanspeaker.com/product/htm/view.asp?id=56
                            HiVi SWANS
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                            • #15
                              Re: "Burn n' Die" Build

                              I had already seen the linear response graph from swans. I guess I was hoping some more info was available. Hmm. Must resist acquiring more things...

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