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  • #16
    Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

    I just noticed the Community buyouts. They have a 15 inch subwoofer that has decent sensitivities and might dig low. No idea if they are any good though.

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    • #17
      Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

      I would be willing to put a bit of time into this after MWAF. Let's clarify what size of monkey is really wanted. I mean, may as well go full 80s Cerwin Vega 15" style. Bigger is better right??????

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      • #18
        Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

        What does everyone think. I was looking at perhaps 15" wide by 42" tall by?? deep.

        Originally posted by Sidi View Post
        I would be willing to put a bit of time into this after MWAF. Let's clarify what size of monkey is really wanted. I mean, may as well go full 80s Cerwin Vega 15" style. Bigger is better right??????
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        • #19
          Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

          Others smarter than I should comment, but to me that driver has too high a Qts at .79 and a slightly too high FS. If it had that Q but an Fs of 22 or something it might be a great choice for a sealed box. Sensitivity is average compared to the DCS305 (about equal). Mostly though I think it makes sense to use drivers that will be around for awhile if the goal is to have this be something people can build.

          Originally posted by NickJ View Post
          I just noticed the Community buyouts. They have a 15 inch subwoofer that has decent sensitivities and might dig low. No idea if they are any good though.
          Loren Jones

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          • #20
            Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

            Originally posted by lorenmjones View Post
            What does everyone think. I was looking at perhaps 15" wide by 42" tall by?? deep.
            that sounds fine. I think a project like this should use current drivers. that way if some one would like to build them it would be possible.
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            • #21
              Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

              I think the woofer should be 8 ohm.

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              • #22
                Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

                The obvious choice for woofer would be either the Dayton ST or Dayton DS. The Classics and Peerless just require too much volume. Would prefer to see the DS because not a lot has been done with these yet.

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                • #23
                  Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

                  The DC300 looks pretty darn good. In 75.6L with a 3"d x 4.5"l port, we get a tuning of 32.6 and f3/6/10 of 35.7/30.8/26.1. SPL is coming in at 8[email protected]/1m. Not a whole lot of power handling before xmax is reached, but a contender none the less.

                  The DS315 looks good as well. In the same enclosure, f3/6/10 is 32.3/28.9/25.4 SPL is 88.4 Xmax is exceeded with about 150w of input.

                  I like the STs but the price is a bit of deal killer IMO. In trying to keep with a $400 budget, half that would go to the woofs. Not a good choice IMO.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

                    The DCS 305 does fine in 3.5 CF which will easily be available in the intended box I think. The DS likes a very small box vented it looks like based on PE calcareous. I don't have WBCD in front of me. The main problem with DCS305 is the 4 ohm impedance. I do agree the peerless needs too much box size for this project. The other suggestions don't dig quite as deep as the DCS though. Is the consensus that a 4 ohm woofer is a dealbreaker?

                    Originally posted by ngjockey View Post
                    The obvious choice for woofer would be either the Dayton ST or Dayton DS. The Classics and Peerless just require too much volume. Would prefer to see the DS because not a lot has been done with these yet.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

                      8 ohm is preferable for most people. We can look beyond PE offerings too.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

                        4 ohm shouldn't really be a problem should it? With imp rise and xover additives, the 4 ohm will be minimal and any about any amp should be fine. It will also make the woofer crossover less expensive.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

                          These showed up in the classifieds so I looked at them on the PE site, http://www.parts-express.com/peerles...ofer--264-1110 I didn't model in unibox yet, but I bet they would do good in a 3-4 cubic foot enclosure vented, given that is what you are going for.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

                            +1 to what Chuck said.


                            What about a Pro woofer like the PA380? Decent enough xmax, 28Hz Fs, low Qts. Plus it's 98 dB sensitive, and less money than the DCS305.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

                              Vintage speakers only had to deal with music, mostly from turntables. Do you want to duplicate that frequency response or better it? L pads on tweeter and mid? High sensitivity for good volume with 40 watts?

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                              • #30
                                Re: Is there interest in a large three way "monkey coffin" collaboration?

                                I want to better that FR. The Designer woofer does look pretty good but if a 4 ohm woofer isn't a deal breaker I'd take an extra 1/2 to 1/3 octave of extension. Perhaps that's too much though. I'm open.

                                I'm not opposed to a 15" but I think 12" is the sweet spot unless there is a 15" that would do an F3 of 35 or thereabouts in a sealed box. That might be pretty cool. I don't think any 15" with 98 db sensitivity can dig deep enough

                                Originally posted by djg View Post
                                Vintage speakers only had to deal with music, mostly from turntables. Do you want to duplicate that frequency response or better it? L pads on tweeter and mid? High sensitivity for good volume with 40 watts?
                                Loren Jones

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