A Hiquphon Substitute on the horizon?

[JRT]

Re: A Hiquphon Substitute on the horizon?

Bumping thread because new thread is starting on similar topic.

[isaeagle4031]

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Lol. I'm in line too

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Boy somebody's anxious! Lol

Want to first on my block.

[ani_101]

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Waiting for Monday for word on the sb19st. See the iron driver thread(s).

[isaeagle4031]

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Any word on the release of this yet?

Boy somebody's anxious! Lol

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Re: A Hiquphon Substitute on the horizon?

Any word on the release of this yet?

[[email protected]]

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Any word on the release of this yet?

[Jeff B.]

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The Wavecor TW022WA06 3/4" dome tweeter definitely has potential. And it has an fs of 750 Hz.
Don't be mislead by the scales of the impedance curve. The treble impedance curve is fairly flat, under 7 ohms at 20 kHz.
Solen of Canada sells it for $65.34 CAD.

It does look like a nice tweeter.

[timw]

Re: A Hiquphon Substitute on the horizon?

The Wavecor TW022WA06 3/4" dome tweeter definitely has potential. And it has an fs of 750 Hz.
Don't be mislead by the scales of the impedance curve. The treble impedance curve is fairly flat, under 7 ohms at 20 kHz.
Solen of Canada sells it for $65.34 CAD.

[Jay1]

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Link to Wavecor TW022WA06 tests:

http://heissmann-acoustics.de/test-wavecor-tw022wa06/

Click on the British flag in the right column for the English translation.

Wow that looks really good!

[timw]

Re: A Hiquphon Substitute on the horizon?

Link to Wavecor TW022WA06 tests:

http://heissmann-acoustics.de/test-wavecor-tw022wa06/

Click on the British flag in the right column for the English translation.

[Jay1]

Re: A Hiquphon Substitute on the horizon?

Have any of you guys seen this Wavecor TW22WA06?

http://www.wavecor.com/html/tw022wa06.html

Waveguide loaded, and rated for 40 watts continuous with a 2khz LR2 (over 105db/1m with that low shallow xover)

[Wolf]

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I do like them. like I said, there are a few good, cheaper drivers out there. but out of all the small 2 ways you have built, how many have ended up sounding as good as these ? this is just one of those "you got it right" and the drivers work extremely well together.

Smaller stuff I've built- sure, they sound nice too! BUT- only have a few designs for the $30 driver mark that sound great. My Mn-14 and Sophomores fit this criteria. It's not because I don't think they sound good, but because it's hard to hit the $30 mark in drivers in general in any kind of design- good or bad.

Later,
Wolf

[civit]

Re: A Hiquphon Substitute on the horizon?

30 dollars buys you a lot of speaker nowadays

The SS classic line dates back to the 70s, and the revelators are about 25 years old. Perhaps the state of the art moves slowly, but the best-value-for-the-money has been changing rapidly.

[Jeff B.]

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I understand the point you are making. there is the law of diminishing return for ever thing. look at many of the Accutons, not good by any standards. on the other side of the fence, look at Scanspeak, not many bad drivers. there is not a law, but maybe should be, for less expensive drivers also. the cheaper you get, the more difficult it is to find good sounding drivers. I just think that you have a better chance of getting a better sounding driver at the $ 100.00 price point than at the $ 35.00 price point. I would also think that most people that have listened to drivers in different price ranges would have to agree. in the end, you just do not see many world class speakers designed with $ 30.00 drivers, but there have been a few, and I will concede that the drivers have usually been a Vifa.

Right. Ulrick knows how to design a tweeter though, pretty much everything he designed at Scanspeak was regarded universally as a reference standard tweeter. When he designed the SB26 tweeters he gave them design features you never see at this price point. It's what sets them apart from other tweeters in this price range.

Keep in mind that the ATC and the Revelators share some things in common: they have a very linear frequency response and very low nonlinear distortion, and their waterfall and energy storage plots are very clean as well. This is a combination that seems to be shared by most elite drivers. The SB26 tweeters have an extremely flat response and their nonlinear distortion is in the same neighborhood as the Scanspeaks. There is really no reason why it shouldn't sound excellent, which is what makes their value exceptional at this price-point.

That's what makes me wonder how the 19mm dome will sound. It may not live up its bigger brother's level of performance, but then it maybe it will, we will have to wait and find out. The 26mm domes have copper in the motor, I'm not sure that the 19 does, so it may not be quite as good. I will find out when I get a pair to measure and listen to.