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  • LOUT
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    Originally posted by Unbiasedsound View Post
    My $5.00 headphones sound better then T.I. panels. lol

    If he was going to use a powered subwoofer then he could of made his panels on the smaller size like the size of a typical 2-3 way bookshelf speaker.
    I've seen some $9 headphones/buds that measure incredibly well, so I wouldn't be at all suprised.
    That said, I haven't heard the T.I. panels/setup and I don't remember if they had any active/software EQ tweaks, so I couldn't say whether or not I think they sound good/bad. I'm guessing you setup something similar to what they had and you didn't like how it sounded?

    Do you have any experience with a small panel around 5"X7" reaching down to 60-80hz as loud as 95-100db? Is something like that possible/realistic without switching to an enclosed cabinet or some other exotic build or parts for a flat panel?

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    My $5.00 headphones sound better then T.I. panels. lol

    If he was going to use a powered subwoofer then he could of made his panels on the smaller size like the size of a typical 2-3 way bookshelf speaker.

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  • LOUT
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    Originally posted by Unbiasedsound View Post
    Are These DML Foam Panels Really the WORLD'S BEST DIY SPEAKERS?? - YouTube

    Here is a accurate review of Tech Ingredients DML design. He states T.E. is a genius a super smart guy which is why he was surprised that T.E. was pleased with the sound quality of his build/design. The answer is simple, T.E. is NOT an AUDIOPHILE and has not heard even a decent sounding system to compare and base them against.

    Even T.E. newest vid I posted above his test subjects are not audiophiles but rather joe blow down the block with there Bose system. lol
    At least one of the fellows mentioned that the system fell short of some really nice-sounding headphones....and you can easily get some very flat-frequency overears for around $99 or some very flat earbuds for $20-30. Good headphones aren't inherently expensive.

    Also probably worth mentioning (for anyone thinking panels like this could be a good OR bad idea) is that it still needed a subwoofer crossed around 150hz, which means instead of the panels it could've simply used a couple of tiny 1-3liter 2ways with the same sub to get a very flat and low-distortion sound.
    Each option still has its own slight advantages and disadvantages, but the small 2ways are comparably cheaper+smaller+more predictable (easier to design for) while the panels have the potential for slightly smaller z-axis depth (only IF you mount against wall) and may have different room and microphone interactions (which may or may not matter for individual uses). I think the panels will also typically be higher-efficiency, but this only matters if getting a 20-30watt amplifier is a challenge.
    Panels may also lend a different sound character to some extent and a unique or "cool" factor...but the latter varies per individual.
    Not saying one or the other is inherently better/worse, since it depends on what you want.
    Last edited by LOUT; Today, 09:51 AM. Reason: I meant z-axis, not x-axis.

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    Are These DML Foam Panels Really the WORLD'S BEST DIY SPEAKERS?? - YouTube

    Here is a accurate review of Tech Ingredients DML design. He states T.E. is a genius a super smart guy which is why he was surprised that T.E. was pleased with the sound quality of his build/design. The answer is simple, T.E. is NOT an AUDIOPHILE and has not heard even a decent sounding system to compare and base them against.

    Even T.E. newest vid I posted above his test subjects are not audiophiles but rather joe blow down the block with there Bose system. lol

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    Here we go again. lol

    SHOULD SPEAKERS THIS GOOD BE LEGAL? - YouTube

    This gives new meaning to the "WALL OF SOUND". LOL

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    My order arrived on Thursday.....I said to myself I better order some more exciters before the price increases and low and behold the Tectonic Element Exciters are now almost "DOUBLE" the price then what I've paid for them just 5 days ago.

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    Dayton Audio EX2HMP-5 Exciter 2-Hole Mounting Plate 5 Pack (parts-express.com)

    Although that is a good idea to remove exciters without damaging the plastic coil adding that extra mass will change the way the exciter sounds.

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    Ive owned over a 100 pairs of speakers in my life time. All of them had grill cloth covers. So my ears like that grill cloth sound. Even DML's sound good with grill cloth. I watched a Magnepan video on how they made there speakers and they use a grill cloth sock that wraps around the whole speaker like Def.Tech or Mirage Bipolars. To bad P.E. didnt make grill cloth sock cover.

    My P.E. package arrived yesterday and those Jantzen copper foil wax inductors OH MY GOODNESS. They sound more refined with more detail and spatial air around the soundstage then the Jantzen air cores. I played that Dominique fil am Birds track and the sound of the birds taking off did scare me last night. LMAO

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    For ***** and giggles I wanted to see what would happen if I took the Audyn True Copper Cap off of my Flag ship DML speakers and put them on my little satellite DML speakers and OMG. My friend came over and he said are those the same DML sat speakers he heard last time and I said yes but I upgraded the capacitor and he was like wow they sound so good. He said last time you said you would sell these to me for $60.00 and I said yeah but without those Copper caps lol and then he asked me how much more are those caps and I said they cost more then what it cost me to build that DML sat speakers. lol Although he said the cost is not worth it he also stated that it does sound better then before. We played a Diana Krall track and her voice is so silky smooth with that Audyn True Copper cap which does make a significant difference when compared to the Audyn Q4. I just wish the Audyn True copper caps werent that expensive.

    Meanwhile back at the DIY Forum they are still trying to figure out the basics of DML's LMAO

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    Yes that is the best subwoofer placement on the left high up half in the shelf. LOL

    P.S. Yes I know he said he put it there because of the clutter but thats just funny to see at least for me. LOL

  • Unbiasedsound
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    On the DIY forum this is the direction some of them are following which is a disaster. LOL

    (1) Panel speaker in progress - YouTube

    This is what NOT to do when building DML's. LMAO

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    fantastic dml speakers part 4 - YouTube Check this vid out of someones canvas DML panels. They sound "HORRIBLE" to me but according to him they sound really well. lol

    Now before anyone says well you cant tell how a speaker actually sounds like over a recording on youtube unless you hear it in person is true to a degree.

    The reason I know for a fact that they dont sound good is because I built some myself awhile back. Even Bertagnis speakers sound better then those.

    I can see why he likes them as he is not a audio enthusiast aka audiophile and just your average joe because his speakers sound similar to Bose as it has no highs or lows. LOL
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  • Unbiasedsound
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    I also pointed out that TT do have flaws in their design so its obvious that they could be "MISTAKEN" on certain aspects of DML tech. or they are wording it wrong or a misunderstanding. I highly doubt TT. are trying to mislead us on purpose as I dont believe that is there true intentions.

  • LOUT
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    Originally posted by Unbiasedsound View Post
    Also why would you believe me and not that video on DML mic feed back? I never knew about DML's ability to avoid feed back until I watched that video. Anyone with a exciter and a mic can easily confirm it for themselves.
    Like I said earlier;
    "I'm not doubting YOU and I'm not doubting BMRs, I'm just doubting some of the marketing that comes from TT promotional videos....and complaining about a lack of important information in them.
    I've seen other major companies use some sneaky methods to exaggerate what their product can do, even when their product is genuinely great and should be able to stand well on its own merits."

    Tectonic lied in one (or more) of their videos. That makes it extra difficult to know which parts can be trusted.

    You aren't selling anything, and you don't have a good reason to make something up.
    You might be mistaken about something (just like any of us) but I'll happily give you the benefit of doubt.

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  • Unbiasedsound
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    Also why would you believe me and not that video on DML mic feed back? I never knew about DML's ability to avoid feed back until I watched that video. Anyone with a exciter and a mic can easily confirm it for themselves.
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