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  • SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

    I know Jeff B. showed a quick and dirty preliminary test, but I figured I'd do the whole nine yards anyway and post my results here. It does indeed measure like an incredible tweeter, even more so considering the cost.



    I just grabbed a piece of 1x8 pine I had lying around and routed out a small test baffle. I first consulted Jeff's Boundry and Diffraction simulator for the optimum position for flat on-axis measurement. The piece of pine is 7.25" wide and 13.5" tall. The center of the dome is exactly 2.5" from the top and 4" from the left side (in this image). This position yields a flat response, less than +/- 1db across the treble spectrum on-axis.


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    2nd and 3rd order is just as clean as Jeff's quick and dirty test. I added three voltages here to show how it scales. It looks good for a very low crossover considering the small size of the dome. If you weren't worried about extreme SPLs, I could see a steep crossover as low at 1800. The critical thing I see from the sharp incline of the distortion below 1500 hz is that you'd want the tweeter response down 20 db or more at 1 khz (at the minimum).

    How about the off-axis?



    Damn near perfect out to 30 degrees, terrific. The odd changes in response here are due to the offset of the tweeter on the small baffle. You can see the 2 to 3khz get a baffle boost as we move off-axis and a ripple form above that. Even with all that considered, the tweeter on this baffle is performing awesomely.

    Hands down, this looks like a great tweeter at 50$ and an unbelievable buy at 18$. All that is left now is to listen and confirm...
    Audio: Media PC -> Sabre ESS 9023 DAC -> Behringer EP2500 -> (insert speakers of the moment)
    Sites: Jupiter Audioworks - Flicker Stream - Proud Member of Midwest Audio Club

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    Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

    Oh, and as a side note: the rise at 20 khz and sudden drop-off is due to the digital filter on my Onkyo receiver.
    Audio: Media PC -> Sabre ESS 9023 DAC -> Behringer EP2500 -> (insert speakers of the moment)
    Sites: Jupiter Audioworks - Flicker Stream - Proud Member of Midwest Audio Club

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    • #3
      Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

      Originally posted by JasonP View Post
      Oh, and as a side note: the rise at 20 khz and sudden drop-off is due to the digital filter on my Onkyo receiver.
      It should have a "pure audio (or some such thing, I forget)" mode, which essentially turns it into a pre-amp and amplifier only. I never had any issues with my 603 or 808 with a cutoff like that when using that mode.
      Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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      • #4
        Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

        Originally posted by johnnyrichards View Post
        It should have a "pure audio (or some such thing, I forget)" mode, which essentially turns it into a pre-amp and amplifier only. I never had any issues with my 603 or 808 with a cutoff like that when using that mode.
        The best I have is "direct" which bypasses all processing. That is what I use to measure. However, the digital filter still seems to be in place (for HDMI sources anyway).
        Audio: Media PC -> Sabre ESS 9023 DAC -> Behringer EP2500 -> (insert speakers of the moment)
        Sites: Jupiter Audioworks - Flicker Stream - Proud Member of Midwest Audio Club

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        • #5
          Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

          Based on both measurements I have seen now, 2K is definitely an option.
          Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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            Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

            Originally posted by JasonP View Post
            The best I have is "direct" which bypasses all processing. That is what I use to measure. However, the digital filter still seems to be in place (for HDMI sources anyway).
            Ahhhhh bad, naughty Jason - use analog inputs for measuring.
            Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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            • #7
              Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

              Maybe I am looking at this wrong, but that impulse graph does not look so good. Maybe there is a reason for it.

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              • #8
                Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

                No waveguide needed for this puppy. The key is going to be to match the directivity of the midwoofer which will dictate either the size of midwoofer or the XO point. This tweeter screams WWMT threeway tower.

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                • #9
                  Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

                  I'm pretty stoked about my iron driver build right now
                  http://jaysspeakerpage.weebly.com/

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                  • #10
                    Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

                    Jason, I think there may be an issue with something in your measurement chain. Every distortion measurement you have posted shows a large peak in 3rd order around 6-7khz.
                    -Kerry

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                    • #11
                      Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

                      Originally posted by Navy Guy View Post
                      Jason, I think there may be an issue with something in your measurement chain. Every distortion measurement you have posted shows a large peak in 3rd order around 6-7khz.
                      I was wondering when someone was going to point that out. I noticed it, wondering if it has something to do with the 21 khz peak (21 / 3 = 7) which might make it another Onkyo issue. I'll know more when I switch it out for a another/better amp soon.
                      Audio: Media PC -> Sabre ESS 9023 DAC -> Behringer EP2500 -> (insert speakers of the moment)
                      Sites: Jupiter Audioworks - Flicker Stream - Proud Member of Midwest Audio Club

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                      • #12
                        Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

                        I'll have to investigate further. I just hooked up the test gear and discovered a strange inconsistency. The HolmImpulse setup says 96khz input and output stream. My receiver DAC can handle that, the UMIK can't (limited to 48khz). I'll correct that setting and see what shakes loose tomorrow.
                        Audio: Media PC -> Sabre ESS 9023 DAC -> Behringer EP2500 -> (insert speakers of the moment)
                        Sites: Jupiter Audioworks - Flicker Stream - Proud Member of Midwest Audio Club

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                        • #13
                          Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

                          Here ya go
                          Attached Files
                          " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                          Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                          Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                          http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                          http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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                            Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

                            Lowell, your measurements appear to be headed toward a spikey at 7k as well.
                            Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                              Re: SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4 Tested

                              Im not sure I would call that a spike.
                              " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                              Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                              Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                              http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                              http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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