Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

[woodsart]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

Jeff, glad you a feeling fine...that means a lot through this ordeal.

I have a question about the Kairos. As you know I got the opportunity to go to MWAF with Kerry (NavyGuy). We had a great trip. I took the Karios for at his request to listen to. He thought they were wonderful speakers and incredibly smooth. At returning to his Condo, we took them upstairs for him to really get a chance to hear them with his equipment. One thing he pointed out was the upper end....less sizzle/sparkle. I had noticed that too, but thought it was my Marantzes cause they are very warm. He used a Rega amp with them in the Condo. I thought maybe there was something loose inside...ha ha, with me that would be possible. I did not notice the lack of top end when I got them. Could they have changed somewhat? Will the 3 way improve this or not?

Sorry, for the ignorance.

Robert

[Jeff B.]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

Jeff, glad you a feeling fine...that means a lot through this ordeal.

I have a question about the Kairos. As you know I got the opportunity to go to MWAF with Kerry (NavyGuy). We had a great trip. I took the Karios for at his request to listen to. He thought they were wonderful speakers and incredibly smooth. At returning to his Condo, we took them upstairs for him to really get a chance to hear them with his equipment. One thing he pointed out was the upper end....less sizzle/sparkle. I had noticed that too, but thought it was my Marantzes cause they are very warm. He used a Rega amp with them in the Condo. I thought maybe there was something loose inside...ha ha, with me that would be possible. I did not notice the lack of top end when I got them. Could they have changed somewhat? Will the 3 way improve this or not?

Sorry, for the ignorance.

Robert

I do not know. My Kairos are designed to be pretty flat in the top octave even though you are listening 14 degrees off-axis. If you stand so that you are more in-line with the tweeter then there is a rising response in the top octave, which to me is quite noticeable. None of my measurements on the design axis show a falling top-end and they do not sound like they are missing any sparkle to me. In fact, compared to my SpiritWinds the Kairos have be bit more air on the top end. Maybe they are getting more boundary reinforcement than I designed them for, which is raising the lower end a bit. The three-way design does not change the internal crossover of the Kairos.

[bigfishe]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

You might want to try a cap Like the mundorf Silver and oil.

It seems to add a bit of top end sparkle!

[bigfishe]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

[woodsart]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

I do not know. My Kairos are designed to be pretty flat in the top octave even though you are listening 14 degrees off-axis. If you stand so that you are more in-line with the tweeter then there is a rising response in the top octave, which to me is quite noticeable. None of my measurements on the design axis show a falling top-end and they do not sound like they are missing any sparkle to me. In fact, compared to my SpiritWinds the Kairos have be bit more air on the top end. Maybe they are getting more boundary reinforcement than I designed them for, which is raising the lower end a bit. The three-way design does not change the internal crossover of the Kairos.

That is definitely true for the lower end. Kerry liked them more with the ports open...I have been listening to them plugged.

I have them at a 45 degree listening position, actually facing behind me at the pc. They sound really good to me that way. That may change now.

Thanks, for your comment.

Robert

[woodsart]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

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Can't see the number....what was the other and where do you get those?

Do you have the Kairos?

Thanks!

[Jeff B.]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

Can't see the number....what was the other and where do you get those?

Do you have the Kairos?

Thanks!

A simpler and less costly option would be to lower the 6.2 Ohm series resistor on the tweeter to 4.5 - 5 ohms. This will raise the top-end by 1 -2 dB. High-end balance is often a matter of personal preference, as well as room acoustics and speaker position.

[woodsart]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

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Sorry, guys!

[woodsart]

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No, what's really interesting is that those values are NOT in the Kairos crossover, they're in the CSS Triton crossover. You may need to double check your Kairos information, or send me an email. I'm not supposed to share the crossover publicly.

Jeff

Ooooops, sorry Jeff, I had the spec sheets of the two speakers together, so I obviously was looking at the Triton. Forgive my ignorance....:(

Changing that resistor to 4.5 or 5 ohms wouldn't be hard and worth a try, but don't get me wrong my love for their music reproduction has not changed.

Thanks,

Robert

[Navy Guy]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

Jeff, glad you a feeling fine...that means a lot through this ordeal.

I have a question about the Kairos. As you know I got the opportunity to go to MWAF with Kerry (NavyGuy). We had a great trip. I took the Karios for at his request to listen to. He thought they were wonderful speakers and incredibly smooth. At returning to his Condo, we took them upstairs for him to really get a chance to hear them with his equipment. One thing he pointed out was the upper end....less sizzle/sparkle. I had noticed that too, but thought it was my Marantzes cause they are very warm. He used a Rega amp with them in the Condo. I thought maybe there was something loose inside...ha ha, with me that would be possible. I did not notice the lack of top end when I got them. Could they have changed somewhat? Will the 3 way improve this or not?

Sorry, for the ignorance.

Robert

Just to be clear, I didn't think they lacked top end. I was talking about how the 3/4" SB19, which is what I've been listening to lately, has a different sound because of having considerably more off-axis energy than the Satori. I didn't think any levels needed adjusting.

[woodsart]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

Just to be clear, I didn't think they lacked top end. I was talking about how the 3/4" SB19, which is what I've been listening to lately, has a different sound because of having considerably more off-axis energy than the Satori. I didn't think any levels needed adjusting.

Thanks for clearing that up....I need to get my head on straight!! :eek:

[ani_101]

Re: Continuum vs. Kairos vs. Adelphos vs. Solstice

Just to be clear, I didn't think they lacked top end. I was talking about how the 3/4" SB19, which is what I've been listening to lately, has a different sound because of having considerably more off-axis energy than the Satori. I didn't think any levels needed adjusting.

The SB19 does have a very nice sparkle to it.

[bigfishe]

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Twiddling thumbs over here :-D

[Jeff B.]

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Twiddling thumbs over here :-D

Well, I have a big presentation at work tomorrow, then Friday we leave on vacation for a week. So, it's going to be a couple weeks before details are up. I hope your thumbs don't fall off in the mean-time.

[bigfishe]

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Hahahaha I can almost hear you saying that!
Jeff you have one heck of a vacation.
We will be here when you get back.
I have a very special box I want to build for these!