quick turntable question

[jason171717]

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Yes it's normal for a stylus to "sing" as it plays.

Thanks! after zeroing the tonearm and setting it to a weight that should work i feel much better about these things that i have never even heard of before (being a CD person :p )

[jason171717]

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Yup! For years and years I was in the "tubes add more distortion" camp. Then I tried a tube stage................ Now almost all my gear has a dim glow. Lol

This is one of my favorite topics Jason. If you have any questions as you go along I'd be happy to help anyway I can.

Happy new year everyone!

We will be in touch i have been looking into tubes as well :D I will have to let the wallet grow before getting into tubes LOL

Thanks for the help!

Jason H

[mike15]

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If you go vinyl, tubes will surely follow.

Yup! For years and years I was in the "tubes add more distortion" camp. Then I tried a tube stage................ Now almost all my gear has a dim glow. Lol

This is one of my favorite topics Jason. If you have any questions as you go along I'd be happy to help anyway I can.

Happy new year everyone!

[clydethecat]

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Yes it's normal for a stylus to "sing" as it plays.

[djg]

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If you go vinyl, tubes will surely follow.

[jason171717]

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The Shure/Jico certainly have the potential to sound "better" then most CD players. Unlike digital music vinyl playback depends on many factors. The phono stage or phono pre play a huge roll in the mix. The player itself of course and set up are all crucial.

My digital system is pretty good. Playing DSD or 24/192 PCM files through my DAC do sound VERY good to my ears. Even red book CDs if mastered well sound great! Your right about the ease of playback as well. It's nice to kick back and hit a button on a remote sometimes.

Both mediums have advantages and disadvantages. Vinyl is littered with issues. Much like speaker building many compromises have to be made. Same with digital. It has just as many compromises.

For me though it's hands down vinyl. To my ears it sounds more live then any digital front I've heard. Yes it's a LOT more work then digital. But that's half the magic to me. I have as much of a role in how the music sounds as my system does. All the snap crackle and pops.... Those can be delt with for the most part.

I understand it's not for everyone. Heck digital all but killed off analogue. But if your a little patient and spend some time and of course money. It can/will reward you with music that digital just can't touch.

These are mostly my opinions of course. Don't want to start any digital vs analogue debates. :p

Lets try not to open that can of worms! I have been finding that there is a different way in which the vinyl presents the sound and i would use the words 'more realistic' and 'more lively' in those descriptions. From what i have been told that NAD c160 has a decent phono stage built in but i would like to get a separate phono amp. It will be interesting to see how these upgrades will play out, one of the main issues with me getting into vinyl is that the masses of CD's that I have at my disposal outweigh the few vinyls which i find is a bit of an issue sometimes when i want to hear an album and i dont have it i need to use the CD player. Hands down the album i know the best currently is Dark Side of The Moon so once i get that on vinyl i will be able to more accurately compare the two media.

Thanks for your help!

Jason H

[mike15]

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By the looks of things that cartridge and stylus combo is about $400 right? If so i will be in! I dont think i will ever be getting rid of our CD collection though, there is something convenient about having 5 discs ready without static or dust issues, no cleaning required, no manual labor at all all remote The cartridge i have right now is at the same level or slightly better than our yamaha natural sound CD player, it will be interesting how much better the shure and jico combo will sound than the cd player

Thanks for the help, and i have a vinyl engine account already :p I used it for the schematics on my rotel ra1312

Jason H

The Shure/Jico certainly have the potential to sound "better" then most CD players. Unlike digital music vinyl playback depends on many factors. The phono stage or phono pre play a huge roll in the mix. The player itself of course and set up are all crucial.

My digital system is pretty good. Playing DSD or 24/192 PCM files through my DAC do sound VERY good to my ears. Even red book CDs if mastered well sound great! Your right about the ease of playback as well. It's nice to kick back and hit a button on a remote sometimes.

Both mediums have advantages and disadvantages. Vinyl is littered with issues. Much like speaker building many compromises have to be made. Same with digital. It has just as many compromises.

For me though it's hands down vinyl. To my ears it sounds more live then any digital front I've heard. Yes it's a LOT more work then digital. But that's half the magic to me. I have as much of a role in how the music sounds as my system does. All the snap crackle and pops.... Those can be delt with for the most part.

I understand it's not for everyone. Heck digital all but killed off analogue. But if your a little patient and spend some time and of course money. It can/will reward you with music that digital just can't touch.

These are mostly my opinions of course. Don't want to start any digital vs analogue debates. :p

[jason171717]

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I have macro, telephoto, garbage kit lenses, mostly primes though but i do have an all around zoom, but when it comes to most of my pictures i stick to my nikkor 85mm f1.8g not a huge macro fan, tried out the tamron 90mm macro f2.8 wasnt a huge fan, none of the lenses that i have or have had or have used up to even a nikkor 70-200 f2.8 vr 2 have been as sharp as my 85 though. I have even used the manual macro tubes with an old all manual 50mm f1.8 from my dads era and that combo works well with plenty of light. As for a picture of the cartridge you wouldn't necessarily need macro, as its depth of field might be to small to get enough info of the actual cartridge :rolleyes: If you havent noticed im a Nikon guy

When you have a great sensor you can always get away with (only get away with lol) cropping, almost a bad word in photography :p







I would probably appreciate using a macro in this case though ;)

Jason

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I actually only noticed the dust after looking at the pictures :p currently i am waiting on the stylus brush and the record brush so until then i can use the spin clean and clean the record hoping no dust gets on it before play ;) Not the best technique but i am waiting on a better one :rolleyes: thanks for the compliment on the pics, I hope i could do better with my DSLR though if not we have an issue :eek:

You need macro capability, or a macro lens to photograph close UPS of small items.

[Æ]

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From this it sure looks like the audiotechnica cartridge on amazon that i saw but it is green. I could take it off the head-shell if you would like too.

It looks like a red version of this http://www.amazon.ca/Audio-Technica-...nica+cartridge

The different colors are used to identify the different stylus configurations. Most AudioTechnica cartridges track well at one and a quarter or one and a half grams.

[jason171717]

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Yeah, Longhorn told you backwards. If you put 1g on the cart. head (taking it down to the platter), then turned the counter weight OUT to level the arm, THEN remove the penny, obviously the cart. head would then have to rise.

Yea that is what i figured, i tried the other way of balancing the tonearm first then setting that to zero and using the counterbalance's weight adjustment to set the weight.

[jason171717]

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Your stylus has a hunk of dust hanging off it (nice pics BTW).

I actually only noticed the dust after looking at the pictures :p currently i am waiting on the stylus brush and the record brush so until then i can use the spin clean and clean the record hoping no dust gets on it before play ;) Not the best technique but i am waiting on a better one :rolleyes: thanks for the compliment on the pics, I hope i could do better with my DSLR though if not we have an issue :eek:

[Chris Roemer]

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Yeah, Longhorn told you backwards. If you put 1g on the cart. head (taking it down to the platter), then turned the counter weight OUT to level the arm, THEN remove the penny, obviously the cart. head would then have to rise.

[Chris Roemer]

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Your stylus has a hunk of dust hanging off it (nice pics BTW).

[jason171717]

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Your PS22 isn't a bad machine at all. As long as it's functioning properly your not going to best it with any of today's entry level Rega, projects, or music hall (IMO). Throw a Shure M97xe with a Jico SAS stylus on that bad boy. Then sit back with your favorite LPs and try to figure out how in the world CDs ever took over???????? Lol.

Sign up over at vinylengein as well. It's a wealth of knowledge! All for the very steep price of.........FREE!! Print out a set up template. They have plenty of them for the taking. No matter how good of a cartridge you install. It wont sound very good if it isn't aligned properly.

By the looks of things that cartridge and stylus combo is about $400 right? If so i will be in! I dont think i will ever be getting rid of our CD collection though, there is something convenient about having 5 discs ready without static or dust issues, no cleaning required, no manual labor at all all remote The cartridge i have right now is at the same level or slightly better than our yamaha natural sound CD player, it will be interesting how much better the shure and jico combo will sound than the cd player

Thanks for the help, and i have a vinyl engine account already :p I used it for the schematics on my rotel ra1312

Jason H